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General Discussion / Re: Maybe the WWIII thread (soon) (Ukraine)
« on: March 05, 2022, 01:43:19 am »
I'm a Ukrainian, but not in the country. My mom is in touch with family members who are there. According to her, my Aunt and her son have evacuated to Romania (try to guess where the Uncle is), but my grand parents have chosen to remain in their city inside a bomb shelter. I'm sad to hear that bombs were dropped on their city.
Can't say I know much more than that though.
The Italy story is an example of how virtue signaling can wrap around and become racism again, but the liquor and hollywood story are both legit acts of protest by corporations (as legit as their pride-month flags are at least). The Vodka ban got a lot of laughs from the Ukrainians at the last protest I went to, the hilarity of it was a great morale boost, but when you stop treating it as a joke I guess it kind of sucks. I can't say I have much sympathy for an importer who uses hammer and sickle imagery in their marketing though. Those are like Swastikas to us.
Make no mistake, all of this is being done to avoid getting cancelled for "profiting off of Russia" and we all know how good cancel culture is at making actual positive change /s
As for the sanctions, we seem to be doing things differently this time. Rather than target the common people, we're aiming them directly at the Oligarch's ruling the country by seizing the assets they own outside of Russia. Who knows if it will work, but at least there's a chance for once. It's like pressuring America by placing sanctions on billionaires at Wall Street. Since they're the ones who actually run the country they might be more motivated to stop the president from running unnecessary wars.
Putin has more power than our president though so I can't say with confidence that he'll actually buckle to that pressure. Especially since a lot of Russia's economic future is riding on its ability to eliminate its rival (or its Oligarchs, but guess who they'll choose...).
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+1!
Can't say I know much more than that though.
Also isn't this Russophobic backlash kinda a bit startling to anyone else?
.... this is reminding me of the burst of anti-Asian hate that cropped up at the beginning of the pandemic.
The Italy story is an example of how virtue signaling can wrap around and become racism again, but the liquor and hollywood story are both legit acts of protest by corporations (as legit as their pride-month flags are at least). The Vodka ban got a lot of laughs from the Ukrainians at the last protest I went to, the hilarity of it was a great morale boost, but when you stop treating it as a joke I guess it kind of sucks. I can't say I have much sympathy for an importer who uses hammer and sickle imagery in their marketing though. Those are like Swastikas to us.
Make no mistake, all of this is being done to avoid getting cancelled for "profiting off of Russia" and we all know how good cancel culture is at making actual positive change /s
As for the sanctions, we seem to be doing things differently this time. Rather than target the common people, we're aiming them directly at the Oligarch's ruling the country by seizing the assets they own outside of Russia. Who knows if it will work, but at least there's a chance for once. It's like pressuring America by placing sanctions on billionaires at Wall Street. Since they're the ones who actually run the country they might be more motivated to stop the president from running unnecessary wars.
Putin has more power than our president though so I can't say with confidence that he'll actually buckle to that pressure. Especially since a lot of Russia's economic future is riding on its ability to eliminate its rival (or its Oligarchs, but guess who they'll choose...).
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QuoteIt seems pretty clear that this war has very little support from normal Russians, what else is expected to happen?
And here you are wrong. Of course, normal Russians wanted a short victorious war, not THIS. But average Russian is an imperialist who views Ukraine as nothing but a breakaway territory that should be brought back.
+1!