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I like this. Not sure how well any of us could do this, but it'd be a brilliant addition to the game.

Goblins in the new version love humans. Hate everyone else. Same with kobolds. It appears humans have, normally, aligned themselves with goblins and kobolds. You just pissed off a diplomat most likely, and may have accidentally caused the future death of that human kingdom. Good job.

There's a giant planet made almost entirely of liquid diamond. So should diamonds be removed from Earth because they're rather uncommon? Why should a world reportedly made from half insane deities be 100% like Earth? This is a fantasy game, not real life. Stop thinking of it like real life.

Well okay. Knives are made for surgery with diamond edges though. But I guess I can leave them out. Also: how do you feel about adding in japanese swords? I'm thinking nodachi, katana, and wakizashi. Wakizashi being a higher velocity short sword, katana being long sword, and the nodachi being a faster two hand sword. They'd have a smaller contact area, meaning better armour penetration, but then they'd be less likely to cleave parts off, like probably no bifurcation.

Well when a fire breathing, flying, full steel made demon shows up claiming to be a god... Yeah, I was scared he'd flip out at any second.

I've been thinking of adding things like stone hammers, diamond swords, stone spears, and the like for a while now. I tried running a game without any forging or metal work at all, and actually found obsidian swords now do some damage, but not enough to be truly effective. This is somewhat different than I actually expected, as I've seen examples of obsidian knives being sharper than steel ones. But it's forgivable. You can't have a volcano pumping out better than steel swords, can you?

Back to the topic: would you like to see stone hammers and spears, so you could actually arm each peasant in certain emergencies, or a diamond sword, with an edge sharper than steel, maybe a diamond spear, or stone axes, which were used extensively by stone age civilizations? Tell me what you think, and I may add a tier of equipment made of stone to my creature pack that I'm working on. They'd probably be for your backup soldiers/militia, with your normal military using up the metal, while your reserve soldiers use stone weaponry.

Uhm... The hell? I was trying to take on an invading army with 14 companions, when the apparent leader showed up: he was labeled as a scythemaster!! Were scythes put in as a weapon, and we just weren't told? I don't have any weapon mods in, and, in my confusion, I didn't take screenshots, but with three slashes this guy cut off my hand, cut open my head, then decapitated me. If I see even the word scythe anywhere, I'll screen shot it. Has anyone else seen that?

If Toady had included NATO rifle rounds in the game with no use, would you be clamoring for AK-47s to shoot them with? Or would you be suggesting that the anachronistic bullets just be removed instead? This is obviously a more extreme example (on purpose, to more clearly stimulate intuition), but the logic is exactly the same.

No, it's not. You're suggesting it's ridiculous to use real world alloys, just because aluminum is a bit hard to obtain, and it's different than what humans in the real world did, because of limited access to aluminum. Dwarves in Dwarf Fortress have access to many times more aluminum than the supposed era humans had, and are quite different than humans. The only reason humans of the same era that Dwarf Fortress is set in didn't use aluminum bronze is because of limited access and no way to refine it in large quantities, which the dwarves have, if aluminum was made more common. There's no reason not to use this, and close to none of your arguments have been accurate or Dwarf Fortress related, you're thinking of it like humans in the 1200's having access to tons of aluminum, not dwarves in Dwarf Fortress.