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Just build a chest or coffer in the temple. Dorfs will fill it with instruments automatically. 'l' brings up the location menu where you can fine-tune how many you want and assign performers.

Quote from: Somebodyelse on January 30, 2016, 10:45:39 pm

Is it possible to civilize intelligent wilderness creatures in the course of a fort's life (on site or elsewhere in the world) or is civilization of wild sentients a world gen event only?

Basically I made a fort near a biome that contains massive animal people in the hopes they'll want to move in. None of the which were available by default in adventure mode. They're playable from the species select list, so they exist in the world, but aren't already part of any civs.

I had a boar woman scholar visiting my fort recently. I think some of them are already civilized.

Yes, that's the point. During worldgen some animal-man tribes civilize, in your case a tribe of wild boar-men civilized at some point. You can check Legends to see exactly when this happened.

However, Toady says that until animal-man entities have been more fully fleshed out, there won't be any additional animal-men civilizing during play.

Of course, I suppose you could always create a thousand 'intelligent wilderness adventurers' and settle them all in a village somewhere to manually kick-start the process.

It's useful because jobs don't get cancelled when you run out of material/some dwarf is hauling the bin with all the materials you need.

I noticed this too. The caged goblins are piling up, how do i get rid of them? Can i trade them away? I know there was a bug in an earlier version but i do not know if it is still there

Bugtracker says 'fixed in next version' so the only solution is to wait a while longer (or apply magma).

I think PatrikLundell is right. There's a specific worldgen event where an animal person "leaves the wilds and settles in [site]" whereby a historical figure is created from an ambient population of animal people. I think this only happens in world generation, and maybe off-screen during play, but I'm pretty sure it never occurs in-fort.

Probably wouldn't happen in-fort. But would be interesting to see if actually building a fortress near a wild animal-man population encourages them to civilise (assuming animal-man civilization still happens post-initial worldgen).

Do gremlins ever civilize at all? I thought  it was just animal-people, gorlaks and plump helmet-men. Love how plump-helmet men somehow become monarchs of their host civilization occassionally...

You might get a quicker, more accurate answer posting this on Future of the Fortress which is due for a post from Toady any day now. Doubt if enough Science has been completed by the community to check this yet (nice if someone surprises us though).

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Posted myself 'cos I'm curious too

Goblin visitors are either:
1) Goblins from your own civ or a nearby friendly human or elf civ and therefore not hostile and didn't just siege you.
2) Performers. Travelling performers can apparently come from anywhere however Toady mentioned that they check if they'd be welcome first. So if you really are getting goblin dancers from the goblin civ that just sieged you, it's not working as planned (although legends mode seems to distinguish some attacks as being from the whole civ and others as being from groups within the civ).

The devlog mentions a goblin dancer being attacked by a visiting human as their two civs were at war which is pretty funny. Mind you, being at war and recognising an enemy doesn't seem to work properly in adventurer, so it's possible that there's a lot more that needs fixing.

-- I suppose beast hunters from actual goblin civs might turn up too. Haven't seen any of then though.

Quote from: Shonai_Dweller on January 29, 2016, 04:21:32 am

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Ehm, you are talking about 0.42.X, not 0.40.X, though save files survived that major update.

Written half-asleep on crowded train with phone. Sorry.