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Mafia / Re: Vengeful Mafia 9.5: Day 1 - The Party Gets Started [5/5]

« on: February 01, 2015, 09:36:50 pm »

Towards the end of the day, everybody should turn their foses into votes.

My reads so far:
Scummiest
ScapHeap:
You treat your gut feeling like it is omnipotent. After a bit, you took back your vote on deathsword as if to try to make the suspicion against you vanish.

TheDarkStar:

Quote from: TheDarkStar on February 01, 2015, 07:53:43 pm

Quote from: origamiscienceguy on February 01, 2015, 05:56:23 pm
I politely ask Deathsword, Scapheap, and TheDarkStar to remove your votes and replace them with Fos's.
Considering that DS is the one up for lynching, you're basically defending him. Why do you not want him lynched?

You are a pretty experienced player. You should know that Fosing should be the same as voting, just without the implications. You also haven't undone your vote even though you are aware of the possible consequences.

Darksword:
Your quick vote on ScapHeap is pretty obvious. I am going to cut you some slack because you haven't been on since and you possibly didn't know the implications of a vote vs. a Fos

Hector13:
You seem very involved in scumhunting and your logic and analysis are sound.

Towniest

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Mafia / Re: Vengeful Mafia 9.5: Day 1 - The Party Gets Started [5/5]

« on: February 01, 2015, 09:19:34 pm »

Quote from: TheDarkStar on February 01, 2015, 07:53:43 pm

Quote from: origamiscienceguy on February 01, 2015, 05:56:23 pm
I politely ask Deathsword, Scapheap, and TheDarkStar to remove your votes and replace them with Fos's.

Considering that DS is the one up for lynching, you're basically defending him. Why do you not want him lynched?

I am not defending him. I am asking that the votes be turned into foses. This should be exactly like voting, it just eliminates the chance of a mafia getting a quick and easy hammer vote in.

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Mafia / Re: Vengeful Mafia 9.5: Day 1 - The Party Gets Started [5/5]

« on: February 01, 2015, 05:56:23 pm »

I politely ask Deathsword, Scapheap, and TheDarkStar to remove your votes and replace them with Fos's.

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Mafia / Re: Vengeful Mafia 9.5: Day 1 - The Party Gets Started [5/5]

« on: February 01, 2015, 05:48:12 pm »

I realize that Deathsword didn't have to vote for him, but scapheap didn't seem to think that a fos is a commitment. A fos should be treated as a vote in this type of game. Except without the risk of a quick hammer.

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Mafia / Re: Vengeful Mafia 9.5: Day 1 - The Party Gets Started [5/5]

« on: February 01, 2015, 05:42:03 pm »

Scapheap you seem to want to push your own agenda against Deathsword, with the only evidence being his vote for you. While this is suspicious, I must remind you that you basically forced him to vote for you, or else he would get all kinds of heat.

Quote from: Deathsword on February 01, 2015, 11:49:57 am

Quote from: scapheap on February 01, 2015, 11:47:55 am
Quote from: TheDarkStar on February 01, 2015, 11:05:04 am
You say that you find DS scummy. You got that from one post. You still won't say what it was that made you suspicious of him - what phrase was it in his post?
He being very 'Hey guys, look how odd scap being' without committing to it. It rubbed me the wrong way.
scapheap, is this commitment enough for you?

You basically put him in a no-win situation and for that I am bassically voting for you, but not yet, in case the mafia decides to hammer you.

On that note, TheDarkStar, Scapheap, and Deathsword, why are you voting already? A Fos is perfectly acceptable to show that you are voting. At this point, a mafia or a clueless VT could easilly hammer Deathsword.

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Mafia / Re: Vengeful Mafia 9.5: Day 1 - The Party Gets Started [5/5]

« on: February 01, 2015, 04:37:41 pm »

But everything before my statements could be scum-tells, or if I see a change in strategy, that could be for that reason.

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Mafia / Re: Vengeful Mafia 9.5: Day 1 - The Party Gets Started [5/5]

« on: February 01, 2015, 03:41:59 pm »

Quote from: scapheap on February 01, 2015, 03:14:07 pm

Quote from: origamiscienceguy on February 01, 2015, 03:12:36 pm
game analysis?
Can you claim that when it still the first day?

Analysis of other Vengeful Mafia games.

Quote from: hector13 on February 01, 2015, 03:38:42 pm

Quote from: origamiscienceguy on February 01, 2015, 03:12:36 pm
Baesd on what i've read from other vengeful mafia games on this forum and others, these options seem the most likely.
Hector, are you saying that you trust scapheap's gut feeling more than you do character and game analysis?

Also, how much influence do you think that previous Vengeful Mafia games are going to have on this one, especially considering scapheap wasn't actually in them?

Since this game is extremely simple with only a limited amount of options for mafia and town, I think that other game analysis is extremely relevant.

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Mafia / Re: Vengeful Mafia 9.5: Day 1 - The Party Gets Started [5/5]

« on: February 01, 2015, 03:12:36 pm »

Baesd on what i've read from other vengeful mafia games on this forum and others, these options seem the most likely.
Hector, are you saying that you trust scapheap's gut feeling more than you do character and game analysis?

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Mafia / Re: Vengeful Mafia 9.5: Day 1 - The Party Gets Started [5/5]

« on: February 01, 2015, 02:53:11 pm »

Quote from: scapheap on February 01, 2015, 03:27:56 am

Quote from: hector13 on January 31, 2015, 09:24:32 pm
Scapheap: If we managed to lynch a scum player on D1, how would that influence your play in day 2?
If it was Deathsword, I'll would follow my gut since it seem to know the score. If not, I don't know...

He seems to be putting a heck of alot of trust in his "gut" without having any tangible evidence.

I see three options.
1. Scapheap is Godfather, Deathsword is goon. Scapheap is trying to get him lynched to look good. I don't think this is likely because Deathsword and him would reherse it better in the mafiachat.

2. Scapheap is Goon, Deathsword is godfather. Scapheap is acting very scummy and Deathsword has voted for him to look good.

3. Scapheap is either godfather or goon, Deathsword is Vanilla Townie. Scapheap just wants to get rid of somebody. I find this unlikely because then Deathsword would just vigkill him.

Option 2 seems the most likely to me.

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Mafia / Re: Vengeful Mafia 9.5: Day 1 - The Party Gets Started [5/5]

« on: February 01, 2015, 02:31:27 pm »

Scapheap

Your "gut" seems to be extremely informed about the situation. This could be that you are a godfather trying to get your mafia goon lynched and get us to trust you, or you could be trying to act scummy to get your godfather to look trustworthy, or you are just trying to lynch someone who you know isn't mafia. All three of these indicate that you are scum

Quote from: scapheap on February 01, 2015, 03:27:56 am

origamiscienceguy: What song are listening to right now?

I normally don't listen to music unless i'm in my car. And then I only listen to Christian Radio.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: You are a suicide scout (a realistic space RTD) Need Players!

« on: February 01, 2015, 01:06:22 am »

sorry, I didn't mean to post here. I just accidently clicked Post

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Mafia / Re: Vengeful Mafia 9.5: Day 1 - The Party Gets Started [5/5]

« on: January 31, 2015, 11:02:50 pm »

Quote from: TheDarkStar on January 31, 2015, 10:50:04 pm

Quote from: origamiscienceguy on January 31, 2015, 08:38:10 pm
TheDarkStar, you are more experienced then I am, when would you put a vote on somebody?

No, OSG, I am not going to respond to the question I gave you. That is for you to answer.

I did answer it.

Quote from: origamiscienceguy on January 31, 2015, 08:19:11 pm

I would certainly vote for someone if they contradict themselves or lie. I would fos people if they refuse to answer questions or answer vaguely.

I am a mathematical person, and I calculated that the mafia has a 60% chance to win and Town has 40% chance assuming all lynches and vengeful kills are random. However, if the scum are blatant or obvious, it should even the odds. This should be an interesting game.

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