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Quote from: AlexanderTheIncompetant on May 03, 2015, 07:35:38 pm

Stone beds?
 Also things that shouldn't be:
 Charcoal workshops. seriously. wtf.

Soap workshops are fine though?

Stone beds make about as much sense as wooden beds without sheets now. I'd sleep in a stone bed.

I've always thought as beds as always needing to be wooden as sort of a balance thing. You need to cut/import wood so your dwarves don't sleep on folding tables. (They're actually comfortable if you're tired enough.) But I guess if the oft suggested "beds should have sheets" could sort that out with a cloth/leather requirement instead.

For the workshops, all materials like that I think shouldn't be allowed. Or should have a penalty such as soap dissolving in water, charcoal burning faster and breaking if someone leans on it... This also applies to stuff like bridges, although the new materials would basically make them unusable or even dangerous, considering average dwarven IQ.
 
 As for everything regarding beds, I think we should be able to build them in all materials that would support the weight of a dwarf (or have unusable *-soap beds to trade to elves-*) I mean, it would be useful for noble's demands, high value rooms and just giving a more dwarven feel to the fortress.

 Stone beds?
 Also things that shouldn't be:
 Charcoal workshops. seriously. wtf.

 How about pre made formations (turtle, späckad, Gå–På etc) or procedurally generated ones, unique to a civ and adapted to the enemies and terrain they fight in in worldgen.

 

Urist McSupremeLeader demands PROCESSION with >5 MOBILE MISSILE LAUNCHERS from BARRACKS to THRONE ROOM to BARRACKS

It might be a good idea to include coup d'état mechanic then
 

Quote from: AlexanderTheIncompetant on May 01, 2015, 06:33:27 pm

What's turtling?

Closing your dwarves inside the fort until the siege, beast, etc. goes away.

Ok thanks.
We all know what waste is used for in that case...

Quote from: Gorobay on May 01, 2015, 04:07:44 pm

Quote from: Corona688 on May 01, 2015, 03:58:29 pm

The game is better off without gritty realistic pee and poop simulation.

I don’t think it’s fair to say that, as if Toady tried it and the game suffered.

  It is, however, fair to say the question has been asked, the answer is no, and these threads are pointless.

Toady said no because he didn't like it in the way he or the people who suggested it before envisioned it, but he isn't omniscient and maybe their are ways that it could be implemented that would be approved, but that no one has thought of yet, although I agree that just screaming ADD SHIT GODDAMMIT is useless.

Quote from: skyte100 on April 30, 2015, 08:07:23 pm

How is that different from what we already do to legendary animal dissectors?

Why would you kill an ordinary, harmless dwarf? They can learn new skills, join the militia, or just haul.

It is different because of the additional cruelty of reading that a dwarf has "drowned in filth".

we wouldn't do it to normal dwarves, we'd do it to nobles and elves.

 OK thanks I got rid of the barrels and I can plant the seeds now