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Hey which version of Elona+ is the stable one? I recently tried 1.63, and I was confused discontinuity of translation of the game, like when I stumbled across some NPCs, not very distant from the place where you first appear, who kept telling me something like 'This sentence is not translated yet' instead of proper dialogue lines. Is it a bug or the actual state of the translation is really as depressing as I observed?

Also, could someone enlighten me on where I should start from, which class and race I should choose etc, in order to get better acquainted with the essence of the game, learn the basics (I mean not necessarily controls or UI navigation) etc?

Hey could someone help me fix my opengl program, please? I'm not sure which mistakes I could have made across it in general (please point out if you notice any), but it is lighting that concerns me most, for I don't know why when my positional light source moves closer and closer to the plane (see the code snippet below) it grows darker, should it really be so?

Here's  some pieces of the code:

http://pastebin.com/iN6ABLp6

And these are some pictures of the scene:


(I'm using the "old" opengl, don't ask why)

Just installed the new version, and (suprisingly, kind of) it shows me the savegames I've made on 0.18 in the main menu. Is it normal or I'm going to have problems now loading my old saves, both on the previous version and the new one?

(the game has been installed in another directory)

UPD ah, now I see...

Your analysis about that algorithm is wrong, but so is my interpretation of your question. How about this:

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f = lambda x: sum(T[x])
ordersortedbyf = sorted(order, key=f)


Oh no, your first suggestion was correct, actually, it was I who got mistaken. Thank you again.

PS the second solution turned out to be fruitful as well, good to know of another method of doing the same thing.

Hey I've come here to ask for help from the gurus of python.

The thing is, I have a list (I will call it order) each item of which is the index of an item in another list, let it be T. In other words, the first list basically specifies the order in which we consider the elements of the second list. So, if we wanted to sort the T list, we wouldn't have to operate on T itself, sorting order instead, because there are merely integers, while T may contain whatever sort of things. For example, let T be a list of lists of integers, and we want to sort it by the sums of those lists.

Of course, I can write something like this:


row_sums = [0 for i in range(m)]

# there are m lists in T
# each of the lists contains n elements

for i in range(m):
    for j in range(n):
        row_sums[i] += T[i][j]

order = [i for i in range(m)]

# insertion sort
for i in range(1, m):
    el = order[i]
    j = i - 1
    while row_sums[order[j]] < row_sums[el] and j >= 0:
        order[j + 1] = order[j]
        j -= 1
    order[j + 1] = el



It's necessary to change the order in T not sorting T itself. But are there better (and shorter) ways to achieve this than the one given above?

I just can't get it, why does the wiki article state vine stalker is an easy species to play with such certainty? Even if it may actually be so, I haven't so far become sensible of this whatsoever, for I've already buried like 12 characters of this species, all of which were intended to be fighters complemented with a set of various helpful spells like Repel Missiles, Shroud of Golurbia etc, some sort of a battlemage but without damaging spells in their repertoire, but the abysmal HP pool coupled with the subpar aptitudes for both offensive and defensive skills make it a real pain progressing through the game with a vine stalker designed mainly for melee (the worhipped deity being Makhleb). Up to now, pretty much every least threatening encounter my character's got engaged in was going to end lethally unless I resorted to some kind of contrivance like summoning Makhleb's servants or using curare or poison needles, but I just can't rely on these all the time.

What's your strategy on building such characters?

I can see where the confusion happened. What you're describing isn't character development. Roughly speaking, character = personality, character development = developing an NPC as a character. 

It sounds like you're looking for a very in-depth and well-thought-out class and build system with a lot of emphasis on stats.  I think you have to go to MMO PvP or eSports for that.  Single-player games are just not as focused on it, especially modern ones.

Out of curiosity, what puts you off from Dragon Age? Is it just the streamlined skills/talents system? I've found Origins to be pretty similar to Neverwinter Nights except genuinely better in almost every area.

I meant a game character just to be the one whom you play as. They may have or may not have personality, like in old games from 80s which were devoid of proper narrative (Mario Bros. etc). Thus character development refers to the broad concept of a game character advancing in their skills, stats, abilities etc throughout the game (including their personality growth too, but it's not what interests me in this particular case, for I'm in want of a dungeon crawler game). This is how I see it.

As for Dragon Age, my discontent with it has to do mostly with ruined expectations, for I had already experienced Neverwinter Nights by the time Dragon Age was released, and although I loved NWN to the utmost, I would have been extremely happy to see significant improvements in Bioware RPGs compared to it, for example on the side of handling in-game world (I wanted the one of Dragon Age to be vast and open, but it proved to be more like in Icewind Dale, when you travel between places solely for the sake of questing, which was acceptable for the time when IWD came out). I also hoped for Dragon Age to feature a more complex role-playing system, not necessarily that of D&D of any version, and I was highly displeased with that oversimplified (or, as you aptly called it, streamlined in certain aspects) nonsense from Dragon Age. Finally, I found Dragon Age to be lacking content-wise, like when we got mere three playable species or races, being the stale humans, elves and dwarves (as if the creators were lazy or not able to come up with something less trivial and not so utterly distasteful for their own fantasy world).