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I would like to hear from the 3 people who voted for mushrooms, how about you tell all if us its significance to you?

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Crossbow.
Reasons: material doesnt effect bolt material, platinum is dense and makes a great bludgeon obviously, and AI xbowers usualy use it as a mace anyway, and having it as an adventurer can allow for 3 skills to level up when you use it. Obviously not in sync, archery helps throwing accuracy also.
For me its hands down the crossbow as a choice.
To bad dwarves dont make mauls.

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General Discussion / Re: Spirituality and Consciousness
« on: March 19, 2015, 07:16:03 am »
Cryxis: could you build on this? Elaborate some more, its interesting.



For the transhumanist immortality seekers: you continue to refer to science and its powers, but still avoid the inevitibility of death, even if all your proposed science works who says you dont blow up in a hover bus crash? or some such incident that destroys your brain and body?
Is there a repairable science in the future that can fix you?
If so why dont you just store a bone and hair in a facility for cheaper rent? Or is this too far fetched..

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General Discussion / Re: Spirituality and Consciousness
« on: March 19, 2015, 05:09:52 am »
Cryonics costs alot, even the company sites dont guarantee it to be succesful often using our lack of knowledge of how death works, like cardiac arrest and that legaly counting as death when its not an actual dead heart its just not beating properly, new techniques using a chemical formula like antifreeze (used in car radiators) to prevent the cell walls breaking during freezing of water crystals by replacing the water with the formula, in the sites it doent say anything about the time it takes to get you to the hospital and the team to get there, even still they wait until your heart stops and tgen try to keep you alive by artificialy keeping your heart going so the brain stays 'alive' they then pump your brain full of said formula and then freeze it.
If any damage was done in the procces theu say the future tech will be able to repair the damage done to the brain, still doesnt say anything about the revival of the repaired but still dead body.
 
I can now understand how one could get upset considering the costs. Alcors brain preservation cost are $80,000 and $500 every year. Wow money that could help so much more right now invested in a possibility of life after death.

I will also mention that its a very small amout of people that actually sign up for it and the preservation cost are quote high so its not a very profitable business.

I will also state that if this all worked you can still die in the future.
The possibility of you being revived in the future is also debatable because why would somebody do it to all of the patients? It was a contract made long ago.

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DF General Discussion / Re: Human Fortress
« on: March 19, 2015, 04:39:28 am »
Yeah after playing adventure mode and hanging around my forts I can confirm fortifications can be jumped through and onto of.
The method I use to build a wall is this
Build the base starter wall as a guideline. Build a few ramps to be deconstructed later and then I build the floor tiles next to the wall 1z lvl above the ground  then build the second story wall on top of the base wall. Rinse wash repeat. I am sure there is a better tech though.

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General Discussion / Re: Spirituality and Consciousness
« on: March 19, 2015, 03:44:19 am »
Thanks roy.

Im afraid of not dieing. Im afraid I wont end and that because of this I would become insane.
Its most probably due to not understanding myself and eternity properly.
Thats why I like the idea of memory loss and reincarnation.
I really didnt expect this thread to turn into one about anti-deathisim and all that, I just let it go that way because it concerned issues of consciouness and if it can continue.
Im really begining to dislike that my posts in these types discussions are thought of as disrespectful and trolling.
I genuinly try to share my ideas without any disrespect intended.
Fuck I dont know I feel like an idiot.

I am certainly doing my research on it now though

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General Discussion / Re: Spirituality and Consciousness
« on: March 19, 2015, 03:01:31 am »
I was speculating what future humans could think is all.
You never until now actualy said you had signed up for cryo, you just said to sign up for it and I thought of it as a joke.

What happens if you die suddenly and unexpectedly, what would Alcor do then?
What also makes you think them making a future replica of your brain will make it you? Sure it will say its you and most probably have your memorys, but what makes you think you will be reincarnated into this body?
I could make a clone of myself, but I wouldnt be this clone.
So what do they do with the original brain after they make a new one??
Do they tell it that it is going to be destroyed?
Its kinda like the teleporter to mars debate.

HugoLuman: that meant new humans to evolve not destroy the human race entierly.

It seems im quite controversal. But in my social circles this thinking is normal, where fringe sciences like cryo, brain copying and immortality are treated with a grain of salt, problems living in backwater areas I guess.

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General Discussion / Re: Spirituality and Consciousness
« on: March 19, 2015, 01:47:00 am »
Grek: how about I ask you a question.
What makes you think you wont die?

You also never stated your beliefs so how could I be disrespectful toward them?
Its like talking about clouds and you getting offended at me.
Death is inevetible, I didnt make it this way and I am sorry if what I have said has offended you.

scrdest: yeah true, I will agree with you. As far as global warming goes its not entirely accurate, its only part of the problem. A correct statment is climate change, its not just getting warmer.

Everybody you know will die, you will die, and your internet fingerprint will most probably also be destroyed, nothing lasts forever.
If your belief is that you will never die, please explain your method and share it here. Many seem to want it

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General Discussion / Re: Spirituality and Consciousness
« on: March 18, 2015, 10:02:52 pm »
Personally, I believe the self and the body are separate. This might change if/when I understand the brain better.
+1


Also I like how the rules directly say "respect others beliefs even if they are incorrect", I like how it assumes a right or wrong for spirituality
Thats just in the opening.
Sure it can be seen as if their is a right or wrong because alot of people think they are right, so even if you believe that your beliefs are correct you could very well be wrong.
Please dont post here disputing the rules. You can pm me that.
Nobody else here has complained.
Please contribute,
Sorry for calling you a dick

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General Discussion / Re: Spirituality and Consciousness
« on: March 18, 2015, 09:39:17 pm »
I will agree that we wont know of the 'soul' and how a brain works untill we start making that stuff.

We do live in a chaotic universe though, and you cant evade mistakes, you cant ensure you stability.
You will fuck up and your loved ones will get hurt, you will hurt others and it will change your perspective.
I used to wish for immortality, things happened and I changed as a result of it, I no longer want it, sure I will take antibiotics and medicine to stop me dieing now, thats because I dont want to die right now, but I will want to.
Shit it crosses my mind every now and then 'suicide' but as a race its a really common thing to think. I wouldnt do it though.

I think as a race we need to die to let new life evolve, and even if you could transmit your 'soul' and consciousness into an adamantine super bot, you would become an ancient way of thinking and may be seen as barbaric techknowledgy and moraly wrong what you did millenia ago.
Chinas super psychics for example, humans are evolving into something else.
If you havnt heard of them its because they are chinese and the government takes them dead seriously funding with millions of dollars. Look them up dont ask for a citation

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DF Adventure Mode Discussion / Re: Bogeymen - wtf
« on: March 18, 2015, 09:21:56 pm »
I hate them. First it was a hate of them killing me,when I got stronger it changed into an annoyance hatred, then after removing them from world gen, I hate how I cant butcher them for bone bolts and yummy black hearts.

I hate everything about them.
There arnt even carvings of them... wtf
Magical gungfu babies are shit and I hate them. If they only exsisted in haunted areas or deep wilderness I could accept it, but as of how they work now its pathetic, no rhyme or reason.
Its like they hate Armok

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General Discussion / Re: Spirituality and Consciousness
« on: March 18, 2015, 08:10:44 pm »
Grek: I was using the book metaphor in response to LordBucket but it fits nicely into what I was talking about.

I think the immortality options will be immpossibilities, life extending very possible but if you lived for to long you would no longer want to live. I really think its that simple.
Your Ego isnt you. So sure pump a computer full of your ego and let your great grandchildren play chess with it, they will still treat it for what it its though. A computer.

I think before you try to become immortal, you should first accept that you are going to die so dont twiddle your thumbs waiting for the scientists make you a pill or load you into a usb.
Even then its inevetable because of the nature of the universe we live in.
Personaly I want to die. I want to see if there is anything behind the curtain.

i2amroy: who says its conscious though? Its just a replica of a rat chunk...

Surqimus: I agree

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DF Modding / Re: Strangest, Wierdest thing you ever modded into DF
« on: March 18, 2015, 10:31:53 am »
Im pretty sure I have the raws, I still use the caste. I will fire up the files tomorrow when I can.

What I did was make the caste then genned a world to test them. Started a human fort and imediately made 3 of my starting 7 assassins, they then chased the rest around causing conflict moods.
Im sure they where normal humans, and even if it was a the goblin race their ethics shouldnt make them automaticly criminals?
Im not sure about the hardcoding. Im getting interested in what I did now..
I will see tomorrow I guess

But im sure all I did was change the enemy tag into attacks_friendlies or whatever word is accociated with allies.

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Genesis verse 26
To sum it up, it states god and the multiple other ?gods? Exsist.
"In our likeness"
Another reason to say the bible is the knockoff version of the real thing

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General Discussion / Re: Spirituality and Consciousness
« on: March 18, 2015, 06:32:13 am »
Thanks LordBucket for the concise post.
I guess its a matter of perspective then  :)
So when you say the book metaphor.
If I am writing a book, I obviously have a plan to finish it and give it a cover saying 'insert book name here'
but its not really a book until its finished, of course page two wouldnt exisit without page one, so perhaps life isnt lived until it ends?

I wasnt aware (as far as I know) of my exsistence in the womb, so could we be unaware of previous consciousness?

I still think the computer body would seem like you but it wont be you,

i2amroy would you kill me if it would extend your life by decades?
Would you become a night creature?

And Grek you caught me mid post, I will attempt an answer.
I realise that much of my thoughts are ignorant in nature and I am always trying to change that.
However seeing as death is inevitable you might aswell die when your natural body gives in, instead of drinking the mercury or becoming a computerman.
Everything that lives dies, its a law of nature and life can be measured but consciousness cannot (as of yet) so unliving objects could be conscious and flora while living could not have consciousness. So if its true your consciousness could survive death, of course memorys and intellegence are part of the body so they die with it.
I hope this answers your questions.
Nag me if it doesnt

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