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It's possible to turn off hauling on dwarf jobs with labour management, but to do it on all dwarves would take a while.

Quote from: Daris on July 20, 2016, 08:12:10 pm

Socialize! has the same priority as Worship!, whereas my dwarves were all Worshipping instead.  Believe me when I say that I have a temple now and it does not interfere with work.  It was some kind of early-game bug, not a normal feature.

Interesting, I haven't seen purple tavern tasks yet.

I see a bazillion of them after I deem a military squad legendary enough and put them on rotation instead of 24/7 training.  First they all go to the library and read every book there, then they Worship! and then they Socialize! for days.

I have encountered, in version .42.06, a period of time in which my dwarves refused to work.  In my case, it was building a floor (a very important floor).  Deleting my temple (I didn't have a tavern but it's the same concept) got them back to work, although there was a delay between the temple removal and the resumption of work of about a game month.

I would start, however, with checking stockpiles, especially if you are using wheelbarrows.  Wheelbarrows have important disadvantages.  They have an important bug as well, in which stuff goes in and never comes back out under certain circumstances, which eventually fills the wheelbarrow and renders it inoperable.  If you have three bugged wheelbarrows assigned to a single stockpile, you might find hauling on that stockpile stop.

If you have haulers to spare....

 1) Stockpile: single tile wide by whatever length pasture is, accepts blocks whatever type you want. No bins.
 2) When it gets full, make another on oppisite side of pasture, set to take from first.
 3) Trampling
 4) if you can, make them path thru pasture to fill 1st stockpile.
 
        Goatmaan

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With three stockpiles, I could interlink them and create a little circle of hauling whenever trampling is needed.

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Your solution is simple : herbalists. Keep your pastures gather zones too so the weeds are removed automatically.

Already tried it, and answered above why it isn't an acceptable solution.  Short version: saplings.

I'm running .42.06, so there are temples.  It's an intriguing idea.  I may give it a whirl.

Quote from: Wirevix on July 17, 2016, 08:23:03 pm

Vanilla DF dragons do not have wings and cannot fly, also.  So it is no more or less able to get around than any other land-bound megabeast.

This is my second dragon.  The first burned everything outside my walls.  Then it flew over the walls and burned everything inside.

Then it wandered into a dead room to destroy a loom, so I walled it up.  Problem solved.  I still had about 150 of my 200 dwarves left!

Two years later, I had about six dwarves left, because the fires and smoke finally killed the rest of them  It was a long and agonzing death spiral.  About 100 of them were trapped in a room suffocating to death and I had no way to dig them out.  But the dragon was still sitting in the private room I made it.  It was the pot fire that killed them.  I had a pile of about a thousand wooden pots.  After that I stopped making pots out of wood.  I make them out nice fire-safe stone now!  Wood is for beds, that dwarves can burn to death in, wheelbarrows, that can burn them to death while they are hauling burning corpses away, and stepladders, that no one burned to death on because all the trees and the grass were on fire.

Although, thinking about it, I sort of feel like I never closed the gates, because obviously dragons can fly.  Maybe it just walked in...

(I don't think anyone  actually died of a wheelbarrow fire, but it would have been hilarious)

Cage traps work for even flying things, if you make your entryway 1-z high.  They are still flying, but flying on the same z as the traps, and will be captured by them.

Cage traps are the best against anything that isn't trapavoid, and the list of trapavoid critters is a smaller list than you might expect.  You might expect a dragon, being quite dangerous, to be trapavoid, but it totally isn't.

The short of it is this: in .42.06, pasture management has become an absolute chore.  Animals don't move around at all except to relocate from one patch of grass to another.  This means that there is near-zero traffic and near-zero trampling of live and dead weeds, leading to the pasture becoming absolutely choked with weeds if I don't intervene.

The only way I know to deal with this is to construct dirt roads over the weeds, either in 10x10 blocks, or individually over each weed tile.  Neither one is optimal, as option 1 destroys good grass as well as weeds, and option 2 is incredibly tedious.

Is there a better way?  Is there a way to make grazers move around and trample stuff the way I remember them doing in .40.24?  Areas where my dwarves path through a pasture have some of the healthiest pasture in my game, but I can't make them be everywhere.  Or is there a way to make dead weeds disappear in less than a bazilion years?  I seriously don't remember this being such an issue in the prior version.  I recall areas where there were no animals becoming very weedy, but a pasture with even a few animals would remain good because the animals would trample the weeds and get rid of them.

In the first days of the world, a small settlement of dwarves with no past selected Mistem Helpedearthen as their king.  Mistem was not the strongest or most hale of the dwarves, but he was clever.  He realized before anyone else that the world is a dangerous place, and that a single settlement is vulnerable.  It was he who sent two small bands out into the world, to hopefully found new settlements and grow the strength of the Scarlet Lanterns.  Some questioned this decision, as Postdabble had few residents as it was.  Could they really spare citizens?  Could they really send their neighbors out into the hostile world?

Now, forty years later, Mistem has arrived at that new settlement, which has grown larger and more wealthy than Postdabble, more wealthy even than Vaultpaints, the other major success of the diaspora.  Greatercrypts is a far more suitable Mountainhome than its parent city, and so Mistem has brought his queen consort and the outpost liaison to settle beside the great volcano Mint Torches in the Taciturn Forests.

He finds a thriving metropolis, 146 citizens, including himself and the two dwarves he brought with him.  The dwarves here have burrowed into the flanks of the volcano, and have full control of the flat land at the mountain's knees.  All three known caverns are fully pacified, with a quantity of livestock drawn from the caverns' populations; even three types of megabeast have been captured and tamed by the city's four master animal trainers.  The volcano has been tapped for both industry and defense.  The dwarves here eat well, drink well, wear fine clothing, and have fended off a dozen goblin raids, with a few goblins kept in cages in the dining room for the children to taunt.  The goblin general is kept in the duchess' throne room.  Sometimes she and the duchess have conversations.

Mistem is proud of the expedition and their many descendants, but thinks they might be a bit too cozy with the humans, who regularly send caravans to Greatercrypts, and especially with the elves.  He's shocked to realize that the elves impose a unilateral lumber quota and the dwarves of Greatercrypts just go along with it.  The fortress is currently experiencing a lumber shortage, in fact, but the Greatercrypts dwarves are so accustomed to obeying the quota that it never occurred to them to just cut more trees.  "Cut the trees," he says.