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One of my starting Dwarves has a grudge with two of the other starting Dwarves. One of them also has a grudge, but the other is friends with Dwarf A. He’s the person who hangs around someone else and considers them a friend, even though the object of friendship hates him. I sympathise.

Quote from: Pvt. Pirate on May 17, 2019, 01:50:00 pm

i already zoomed in and out and scrolling worked fine (meph32lite+curses800x600)
i don't know what you changed axactly, but it does the trick.

Basically, mousequery was always checking the cursor position against the window size in text tiles to determine when to scroll the map. TWBT modifies the cursor position that gets reported when you're hovering over the map so that it reports map tile coordinates instead. This meant that when the map tiles are larger than the text tiles, the cursor position in the lower/right areas of the map would never get large enough to trigger mousequery's scrolling. Thanks for the help diagnosing it - the fix is merged now, so it'll be in the next DFHack release.

We'd die, we'd all die.

WWUD do now that he's in our world?

Getting mountain ranges AND tiny random sheer cliffs is not possible, but I've actually got a param set that should work nicely for your needs. There is very little actual ocean, but lakes are very common and with a few worlds you're very likely to find a sheer cliff face that drops right off into a lake.

I do have quite a few of personal touches, like removing megabeasts (they mess with civs too much to be worth the pain, although in hindsight this world could handle a few) and of course things like cavern settings and mineral rarity that don't connect to any other settings. You may also wish to turn secrets off, as it's pretty likely you'll get a necro tower somewhere in the world which, combined with the small size of the world, means that the majority of the world would be in range of it.

Also note that changing the world gen time is not suggested: I've set site and pop caps to the max and am using the length of world gen as the population limiter. If you've got a non-crappy computer you could do 100 years but I wouldn't see any reason to go past that.

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[WORLD_GEN]
   [TITLE:CLIFFS]
   [DIM:17:17]
   [EMBARK_POINTS:1504]
   [END_YEAR:50]
   [BEAST_END_YEAR:10000:80]
   [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
   [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
   [ELEVATION:99:400:3200:3200]
   [RAINFALL:10:90:100:100]
   [TEMPERATURE:65:65:0:0]
   [DRAINAGE:10:100:100:100]
   [VOLCANISM:0:100:3200:3200]
   [SAVAGERY:0:100:3200:3200]
   [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:2:9:0:0:0:1]
   [RAIN_FREQUENCY:2:1:3:1:1:1]
   [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:2:1:1:4:1:1]
   [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:2:1:0:0:0:1]
   [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [POLE:NONE]
   [MINERAL_SCARCITY:500]
   [MEGABEAST_CAP:0]
   [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:0]
   [TITAN_NUMBER:0]
   [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
   [DEMON_NUMBER:20]
   [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:0]
   [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:10]
   [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:10]
   [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:10]
   [SECRET_NUMBER:20]
   [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:20]
   [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:0]
   [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:0]
   [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:0]
   [GENERATE_DIVINE_MATERIALS:1]
   [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:0:0:0]
   [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:0:0:0]
   [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:0]
   [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:1]
   [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
   [VOLCANO_MIN:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0]
   [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:0]
   [RIVER_MINS:0:0]
   [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:0]
   [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:0]
   [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:1]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:100]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:20]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:50]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:10]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:10]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:10]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:10]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
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   [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:1]
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   [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
   [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:5]
   [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:100000]
   [SITE_CAP:1000]
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   [RAIN_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [DRAINAGE_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [SAVAGERY_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [VOLCANISM_RANGES:0:0:0]

Quote from: Pvt. Pirate on March 30, 2019, 09:44:23 am

can someone explain which settings are best for adv mode?
i know twbt messes it up quite much, but without it, it's as messed up as without.

Tried with vanilla DF? I only had problems with crashing with twbt & mephs. Vanilla DF, dfhack and ASCII graphics work fine for me.