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I know all this, i was just confused as to why the [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SILK:SILK_TEMPLATE] was indented under [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:EGG_MATERIALS]

You seem defensive about this, i'm only trying to help.

So, as a little challenge I added the tags [OPPOSED_TO_LIFE] to every creature in the raws. Cue constant animal hostility. Other tags I included as well are curiousbeast, prone to rage, and natural combat skills.

Unfortunately, whenever I start up fortress mode, most creatures don't end up spawning - dwarves kill the first batch of wildlife, and nothing new enters the map at all. Any thoughts on this?


Edit - Maybe it's impossible for [OPPOSED_TO_LIFE] creatures to spawn as wildlife in fortress mode. Hypothetically, how would I go around having a syndrome or what-not that immediately transforms regular wildlife into crazed versions as soon as they walk into the map?

No it's a lot simpler. There's a material called EGGSHELL_TEMPLATE, this is what all eggs are made of, the EGG_WHITE and EGG_YOLK are just kind of like attributes.

As it stands, all animals that lay eggs make them out of [MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:EGGSHELL_TEMPLATE], but you can designate them to lay them out of any MATERIAL_TEMPLATE, in my mod they do so out of [MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SILK_TEMPLATE].

[LAYS_EGGS]
         [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SILK:SOLID]
         [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_WHITE:LIQUID]
         [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_YOLK:LIQUID]
         [EGG_SIZE:150]
         [CLUTCH_SIZE:3:6]

Then you can do whatever you want with the eggs and if the reaction takes material from the egg reagent it will make a product of that material.

However to stop weavers making EGGSHELL thread out of chicken eggs, i use a [REACTION_CLASS:SILK_EGG] under silk, so reagents of that material can only be used in the reaction.

As for [PRODUCT_DIMENSION:1500], i don't believe that's relevant anymore, but we can trick dwarf fortress and turn the eggs into globs (like meat and fat), which will give us an arbitrary amount of "egg globs" in relativity to egg size, which can then be exchanged into an appropriate amount of thread by a second reaction.

I hope this makes sense, and i haven't horribly misunderstood...

Shameless self promotion coming through.

I don't think i've seen silk industry done more efficiently than using eggs, which is remarkably simple to do.

My mod does exactly this, by making spiders lay eggs with silk shells, which are fed into a reaction to convert the eggs into globs, then another reaction to convert the globs to threads.

The last two steps could be converted into one, but doing it with two enables larger eggs to give more threads.

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Best thing about the way i do it, is that the eggs can hatch, and are also edible.

Quote from: CulixCupric on September 24, 2015, 06:38:36 pm

is it possible to, and how would i, make a syndrome that applies a creature variation to its target?

To expand on Putnam's thought a bit, you can make a distinct creature which is a variant of the target, and transform the target into that.  Two drawbacks:

All the variant definitions need to occur in the raws, which means a creature definition for each potential species of target.  They can all be managed by making each transformation only able to affect its assigned target species.  And the creature's stats are rerolled during a transformation, so it ends up a variant of its species, but not a variant of itself.