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I wasn't involved in the military decision so I won't comment on it except for the fact that the amount spent on military equals the amount needed to start up any trade good we have access to at the moment.

The thing with Logging is that we've been explicitly told through our own life experiences that we'll make a killing trading Lumber to Iceland. Plus there's a slight chance that we'll be able to use the Logging to make other construction projects cheaper. Of course, unless we're able to borrow against future turns, we can't actually afford to set up Logging until next turn.

Building our own Longhouse is rather important, but at 500 Hacksilver, it's a fairly big investment. If we use our actions next turn to boost our economy through more trade, we might be able to afford it two turns from now.

Basically that, only with some few hundred years to stew and get themselves reproducing and organized. It's from Mass Effect.

You're screwing with my suspension of disbelief man

Historically, bison, or what we call buffalo, existed waaaay further east than any location we could have reached from Iceland. As you probably know as you've called out their likely ineffectiveness, they tend to be rather mean to literally everything, as their main method of communication that isn't a bison (and plenty of times when they are bison) is to ram and stomp on and generally screw with whatever is unfortunate enough to get in their way. They're basically the moose of the plains.

We have been told we have a better chance of domesticating bison than we do interbreeding the local wolf population with our dogs. Which is insane.

If Ghazkull says we can domesticate bison, then I see no problem with eventually training them to carry vikings around in combat. We could even form a mercenary company based on bison calvary and shop them around Europe, maybe even getting a reputation akin to Swiss mercenaries in quality.

Here's how I see it.

Now:
Research => Buffalo= 3 year timer
Money => Farms

Next Year:
Buffalo= 2 year timer
Money => Logging
Research => Honey + another thing

Two years from now:
Buffalo= 1 year timer
Money => ?? Possibly Mead Research
Research => Mead + another thing

Three years from now:
Buffalo= Y/n? If y, hooray, if no, try again with progress made
Money => ?? Expanding mead operations?
Research => idk, mining? Buffalo again? Uranium processing?

If we start Honey this turn, all that really changes is that there will be debate about using our funds to start up Mead instead of Logging when we know that Logging is something that we can use to build up our financial back bone. We can afford to delay a year and potentially get a free resource up and running while getting our food supply and funds sorted out.

Formally requesting votes for the addition of the following actions, needing 5 votes for them to become actions we can do in the future.

Send Thralls out to the Farms: Sending Thralls out to work and expand the fields as well as help improve farming infrastructure should help improve future harvests.

Have Thorleif teach you about the Old Gods: You have some vague ideas about who they are and what they do, but the old godi has much he can teach you if you spend the time to learn.

Have Asa teach you about Diplomatic Relations: Being able to better measure the longer term effects of the things that Asa recommends you would be useful as a leader and there's no guarantee that Asa will be around forever. Having her teach you some of what she knows could be more than a little useful.
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With trade it's more of a question of who we want to set up trade relations with first and who we can get more money out of at the moment. Iceland looks to be a good choice and synergizing with the "We have Old Gods here" option will hopefully provide more people.

Though now the idea of setting up income from both Spain and Iceland is sounding appealing. But we can still wait on that and pick up Dublin and Spain next turn, providing us with plenty of income to expand while also having people to expand with.