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Very eloquent development log, lot to chew over, so here's a question i had rattling around about it.

Q: Regarding the groundwork of "religious hunting orders", will they avoid forming in the death religion* or will a alternative explanation like ethical legality on necromancy/nightcreatures be introduced to motivate their behaviours?

• Since the main proprietor of give & take for slabs (creating devoted followers who raise & destroy the undead) is the god itself as the source. Seems good for making bodies, but not for a clear view of what the sphere would now represent.

Without trying to be suggestiony, 'Undeath' might be a more apt sphere description for what we have in its place at the moment, as its a perversion of death and the values of burial, mortality & funerary practices.

Noone?
Have I broken some rule with an inept question?

Hi, no don't worry about that, the forum usually is pretty quiet without too-many new developments.

LNP does come with a lot, but there's plenty to offer. I personally use grim tileset (which i've had to partially write in the init myself, it being a legacy pack), but if its 10 years you've been gone, you might want to get DFhack so you can use TWBT and utilize the image-swap capabilities it can offer you, with some highly implemented tilesets being able to distinguish spritesheets from just materials alone.

- Im unsure on the side if the current state of world affairs (covid, war in the east) has also whittled down active member numbers.

Also i suppose the modding community and tileset community at large are holding their breath until the graphical release of the game on steam and they have a proper idea on how to break-new ground for tilesets.

You'd have to fish for DFhack scripts in definity to make a race/caste who doesn't care about clothes in entirety. Last one i saw of note included adding them into a remote script list, but there may be ways to automate it with custom raw tokens.

Cluttered clothes arent so bad, they lose bad fashion so you can move them into better more quality fashion as soon as you can get a couple of clothiers, dyers and leatherworker experts which make high-chic forts more than possible to sustain.

Am I missing something? Can I report bugs in DFHack somewhere? And is there another way to cancel the reaction? I tried reaction_product.probability = 0, but that had no effect.

Ill PM you a discord link to the DFhack hub, elsewise like most of us its merely waiting around for inspiration to strike or someone to dive in and finish the last piece of the puzzle out of their own initative.

Probability doesn't physically turn it off, it just executes it with no chance of procuring the *product, as a alternative you could have it be probability 0 then return the water if false to where it came from, assuming it the same water that got drawn up (perhaps into a 1x1 solid cavity in the workshop to "hold" the water, but im unsure if the dynamics of having that much water nearby would make it deconstruct.)

Some sort of moodable pottery would be nice i agree, its a niche area but like perfect gems maybe 'vases' as a purely decorative object or something to push a few flowers in would be worthwhile? Your own little dwarf ming dynasty porcelain collection and the like.

Meanwhile on boats... That's a whole other kettle of fish. There are many, variations of ideas offered by Toady and other players how it could be done (searchbar in the top right) but the water-simulation and current dimensions of movement make it difficult on any sort of approach until they're overhauled in a workable way in the upcoming map-rewrite.

I dont feel like both of these suggestions should be together in the same space though, its asking for different sizes of things.

There's pretty much no way to run this thread without a topic or overarching theme of narration that isn't going to cause controversy, break forum rules in some way or people inputting opposing blunt points against each other for pages on end.

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Quote from: Magmacube_tr on June 06, 2022, 08:27:47 am

Quote from: satan on June 05, 2022, 05:10:15 pm

If I give [STRANGE_MOODS] to animal men, would they go extinct from insanity due to the fact that their civilizations don't build workshops? Would giving the [AMPHIBIOUS] tag to dwarves let them build underwater?

For underwater dwarves thing, I don't think the game allows anything to generate underwater.

Pretty sure the pathing code in fort mode doesn't allow amphibious creatures to path in water either.

Sites are generated well above the waterline, and amphibious races (or least a amphibious army, or amphibious pack animals with amphibious people leading them/amphibious wagons + pullers) are required for them to ever leave the site, unless they can fly because of pathing rules for terrain. In fortress mode they might survive in water but they wont be able to path through it well (or at all)

The Naga people of the Masterwork mod are a good archetype for showing this off, since technically they live on the interior of major lakes that are inaccessible.

Does the Steam Release meet the relevant criteria to be a sequel? Or will the game eventually culminate a splitoff point from the original that would nessecitate a new inner workings and therefore 'engine' behind the fantasy simulation alltogether?

Personally on reflection of some of some of the dissent against steam release for keyboard and disparity of userbase, do believe it would be better to canonize it as its own game, in regards to its audience than force it to be Slaves to Armok 2: Dwarf Fortress's siamese twin. They might always be somewhat similar but with the game's ambitions moving foward they may have to depart from one another.

I wouldn't put it in the suggestions subforum because its mostly meta in a way of asking you forum users directly about your public opinions than anything for the game.