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Good news with a little/major update with my mousefolk race... when through their raw file along with the error log and corrected what was conflicting... turns out that mashing a human with a rodent man results in an error log; at least when they die it now reads 'corpse' instead of 'nail' and adjusted their inebriation rate to be 50 instead of the default 100... Going to be fun when taverns are built.

So I ran your race in my DF 4303, and got the same issue, but I also found some strange stuff in the errorlog that may be of interest to you if you weren't made aware of it already:

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*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_mousefolk.txt"
MOUSEFOLK:Tissue layer not added because no BP found: BY_CATEGORY:EYELID:EYELASH
MOUSEFOLK BP Mod THICKNESS Was Not Used
MOUSEFOLK BP Mod SPLAYED_OUT Was Not Used
MOUSEFOLK BP Mod HANGING_LOBES Was Not Used
MOUSEFOLK BP Mod BROADNESS Was Not Used
MOUSEFOLK BP Mod HEIGHT Was Not Used
MOUSEFOLK:Unrecognized Creature Token: CHEESE_DEPENDENT
Unrecognized Appearance Modifier Token: PLUSH
Unrecognized Appearance Modifier Token: SOFT
Unrecognized Appearance Modifier Token: SILKY
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature MOUSEFOLK
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK HAIR
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK HAIR
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK KIDNEY
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK SPLEEN
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK PANCREAS
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK GIZZARD
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK STOMACH
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK GUT
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK LIVER
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK HEART
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK LUNG
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK BRAIN
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK NERVE
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK EYE
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK TOOTH
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK HAIR
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK CARTILAGE
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK BONE
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK MUSCLE
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK FAT
undefined local creature material set to default: MOUSEFOLK SKIN
MOUSEFOLK:MALE:head, layer 1: Tissue CHIN_WHISKERS was not found, using first tissue instead
MOUSEFOLK:MALE:head, layer 2: Tissue MOUSTACHE was not found, using first tissue instead

huh... I never checked the error log...
The cheese dependency was a something that I wanted to see was doable (don't think its possible) as for the rest of the errors, any way of fixing them so it all works out?

The facial hair not working is I think due to me trying to keep hair from becoming extremely long, was aiming to have both as short/average/long unless I re-add the reagent for shearers to drag unsuspecting micefolk off to the farmer's workshop for haircuts... except it got weird as their shaven hair would be turned into thread then cloth and sold to the hipster elves

If i were you, due to their size i would probably include a threshold of bravery (to compliment charges and invoke suprise over the ferocity of these mice-people in battle, meaning you can make them smaller and weaker than a kobold to good effect), a good amount of isolationist intolerance of others, very low base amounts of cruelty, high orderlyness, curiousity, excitement, altruism  and just a streak of michevious as a wild-card defining factor (besides them fawning over paladin justice/administration via orderlyness)

As a end result you end up with extremely inquisitive creatures with a inherent mischievous streak (whether it affects them no doing as you ask or meddling with levers at random like gremlins remains to be seen presumably as long as its within the law) but are also resolute in trying to not give into those urges via a orderly society. They are kind to their own but look suspiciously if not a little anxiously at others.

Played around with personalities (untested in fortress mode, but comes out fairly well in adv. mode) and turned out quite well... They're trusting, kind and prefer to help those in need, somewhat excitement seeking, insanely brave despite their height, despise other cultures and races and tend to give into flights of fancy and extremely curious.


Running into an issue regarding overall hair length (is always shown as being extremely long), fur descriptions and male facial hair aren't showing despite having the correct tokens.

Did play around with a fortress before I added in personalities and removed [variable_value] token from their entity file (cultural values kept swinging wildly... now they are static) and had a micekin pupsplosion... 11 and 12 pups in a single litter from my militia commander and a legendary glassmaker... restricted the pups to a nursery burrow with food, beds, toys, decorations and a well (with grate) yet they ended up remaining with the mother after a lengthy [Cancels Work, Seeking Infant] spam; any method of keeping the pups in the burrow and allowing the mother to continue their duties?

Readjusted the creature raw file so that fur and hair are separated, dropped the caste by profession idea (easier to create a custom profession title in Dwarf Therapist) and any way to solve the inability to pick up and use tools/weapons for mining/woodcutting and militia in Fort Mode?