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For the record, I suggest becoming a vampire after reaching your limit in strenght and agility because becoming a vampire doubles those stats. I think its better to have your limit X2 rather than your starting stats X2 only to hit the limit sooner. Of course, by becoming a vampire you don't get tired, so you could train your weapon skills against a Bronze Collosus forever, reaching legendary infinite +1. That might make up for having sub-par strenght and agility.

Then again, I don't remember if that was bugged and you were able to get XP, or if that was for necromancers.

Made it to the hydra's lair, with two elve civilians recruited and armed up with bows, quivers, and arrows. Need a good plan of attack though.

Tell 'em to follow you, you go in crawling and sneaking while they don't. They get spotted by hydra first, start shooting it, you wait for it to be distracted and stab at its upper body. I'd use a pike or a spear, to try and puncture the heart or lungs. Once it starts having problems breathing or its heart starts gushing its blood, jump back and wait for it to die. Dunno how things work in your mod, if that'll be enough for your objectives.

Well, I've certainly seen big towns with no temples and really small ones with 3. So, dunno what makes humans build temples or not. I've read something about libraries, that only civs which value knowledge build them, and since human civ values are somewhat randomized, not all human civs have them. Maybe something similar happens with temples?

Anyway, to the basics. Temples appear on the fast travel screen with their names on cyan/pale-blueish font, just like mead halls appear in purple font and taverns in yellow.

Now this is based on personal findings. Temples tend to be on the outskirts of cities. I think because the city first has to be prosperous for them to build a temple, and by then prime state grounds near the castle are taken up. Though, like I mentioned, I once found a very small town with 3 temples around a castle, and only one tavern. Then again, on such a small town, anything can be considered outskirt.

So, just walk the streets.

I'll try to investigate the vault tomorrow, and maybe the dark tower to try to reach my dear Master in the underworld spire if it is at all possible <3
It has over 10k goblins, trolls etc. so somehow I doubt the fps will be playable even with my above average patience.

I once spent over an hour walking through a slade... Fortress? Dunno what it was. The place was full of goblins, trolls and beakdogs. All of them walking in and out. Through one-tile wide hallways. The place was fps hell.

After jumping through it all (seeing how goblins and trolls jumped off my flight path and slammed against slade walls hard enough to mangle multiple limbs and bruise their innards was fun, though.), I came face to face with a goblin lady. And the demon lord, a gerbil made of vomit.

Now this is the part I'll never forget. The lady said "I've awakened to the worthlessness of law. How pleasing!". The only other thing there was the demon. Had she been chatting with it? Goblins and demons don't die of old age, right? Like. Nobles get appointed for their social skills, right? Being good at manipulating with words and such, right? Could they had been talking for centuries? Is that why goblins do what they do? Because their nobles are corrupted by demons and the nobles in turn corrupt their subjects?

All those thoughts ran through my mind. So I came to the conclusion that I had to end this demon. I didn't pay enough attention and did 't see that it was a webbing demon.

So ends the tale of how I wasted near to one hour and a half going through a goblin slade citadel. Or dark fortress. Can't recall the name.

First train yourself wrestiling small things. Once your strenght and agility go up with all that work-out, grab a sword and slap the shit out of everything with the sword's flat side. I usually slap bears on their tails or front paws. If it's too boring, set up a macro. Also, lie on the ground while doing it. The bear will get more attacks in, so you'll train shield user while blocking those, and by being on the ground you avoid getting charged.

Doing that I've reached legendary swordman in a day, with superior agility and strenght. (at character creation, get yourself superior endurance and some willpower. I usually roll heroes, so I max endurance and get above average willpower, that's all I need)

Once all that's done, try to see just how much faster and stronger you can get. I read that there's a limit based on your starting stats.
Once you reach the limit, go to a temple and topple a statue (save first, so if you don't get vampire at the first try you can try again. You'll know you're a vampire because all the people you can't directly see will appear as a red dot. Yes, you're seeing their warm blood. Wonder if it works on cold bloded things like reptiles and such....)

Anyway, by now you should be one though vampire swordman. You never get tired, you're super fast, strong and feel no pain. And you drink blood. And becoming a necromancer doesn't take away that kind of thirst.

Have FUN!

like say a ghost can drink their own corpse if you stuff it into a cup.

I though you were suppowed to avoid fortress ghosts because they could, and I quote: "scare you to death"
Also, you wouldn't be a skeleton, your fat melts, not your muscle mass.

That's particularly odd, and while I can't figure it out, one workaround is travelling to a town, (While I don't practice this, it is a method if you want to work around it), save, then knock over a chapel statue and reload until you get vampirism.

Oh, I know of that.
Thing is, getting vampirism "straight from the tap" sounds more awesome. I mean, going down on legends for being cursed by a deity of rainbows... Doesn't have the same effect.

Speaking of that, I wonder what would legends say if you get vampirism from vamp blood rather than toppling...