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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day 3 - Launch of the doctor!
« on: May 10, 2019, 09:25:41 pm »
Basically everything regarding TricMagic could be described as absurd and/or ambiguous. The problem is that you came to defend him for some reason while he has suddenly fallen silent, which led me to believe that you both could be scumbuddies protecting each other. And the list of answers wasn't ambiguous at all.

Quote
No and no.
Yes.
No.
And Day.

Notice how each answer is divided by a period. There's just no way to see it as a simple mistake, as it was clearly deliberate. Regarding the mechanical argument, I haven't forgotten about that but it isn't what I'm currently focusing on. I also considered that it might be possible that Nirur Torir was brainwashed.

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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day 3 - Launch of the doctor!
« on: May 10, 2019, 09:10:05 pm »
So, why are you voting Leafsnail instead of TricMagic if he was the one who made the slip, if it really was one? While I'm not really sure anymore, there's still the possibility Leafsnail could be town and we want to avoid a misslynch if we're really on MyLo.
Tric isn't here to answer. I'm fine with either; they're both scum.
Except we won't get anywhere if our votes are spread out like that. If you're so sure that TricMagic did make a slip like I am, then you should probably be voting him. While I'm not entirelly sure if Leafsnail or you are scum or not, TricMagic is as confirmed as he can be, seeing what just happened.

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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day 3 - Launch of the doctor!
« on: May 10, 2019, 09:02:29 pm »
Either I visited him to Do Nothing or I made him re-target Everyone into Everyone. Easy.

And I think it's absurd to blow up what could be a very easy typographical error into a definitive scumslip.
Which is just plain silly to say while insisting that one of the two of us is a liar, based on your own guess of the rules, AND while defending Tric's "very easy" typographical error, before he can respond. Just take all the pressure off his scumslip.
This is not the first time you've been oddly convinced on Tric being town. You're both scum, what a way to slip.

Why don't you let your scumbuddy defend himself, Leafsnail?[/b]

So, why are you voting Leafsnail instead of TricMagic if he was the one who made the slip, if it really was one? While I'm not really sure anymore, there's still the possibility Leafsnail could be town and we want to avoid a misslynch if we're really on MyLo.

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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day 3 - Launch of the doctor!
« on: May 10, 2019, 08:41:17 pm »
Important note that I think deserves its own post: y'all are misreading TricMagic's post. It's confusing because he put in an extra yes/no answer, it's pretty clear to me he's saying he's not in a quicktopic.
  • [1]On Night 1, who received new power, and did anything happen to their old power? Same with Night 2.
  • [2]Who is in a Chatroom this game?
  • [3]Who here has the power to redirect actions?
  • [4]Is your power day, or night?

To answer mine, [1]No and [2]no. [3]Yes. [weird extra]No. And [4]Day.
I think it should be obvious that it's this:
  • [1.1]On Night 1, who received new power, [1.2]and did anything happen to their old power? Same with Night 2.
  • [2]Who is in a Chatroom this game?
  • [3]Who here has the power to redirect actions?
  • [4]Is your power day, or night?

To answer mine, [1.1]No and [1.2]no. [2]Yes. [3]No. And [4]Day.
The first question is actually two questions, and he answers "No and no" on the same line because of that, then he says "Yes" to the "third" question, admiting that he is, indeed on a quicktopic with the scum and thus a member of the mafia.

Maybe it's even in a scum team with you, since Nirur Torir didn't actually lie regarding what he did last night and you're suddenly trying to defend TricMagic, while he has gone silent.

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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day 3 - Launch of the doctor!
« on: May 10, 2019, 06:31:12 pm »
This was pointed at me, not Leafsnail.
I got the wrong name by accident, sorry. But my point still stands.

Also yes, I was hoping that you would explain about your ability. Paraphrasing the one I gained during the first night and used in the second: I can, once per night, learn the names of everyone who doesn't target me during that night. With the list of names I obtained, the only ones who were missing were me and Nirur Torir. If you had used a redirecg, I believe I would have obtained the list of everyone who didn't visit someone else, but then I would have seen your name as you would have visited me instead of the target I would have been redirected to.


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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day 3 - Launch of the doctor!
« on: May 10, 2019, 05:55:54 pm »
Also keep in mind that TricMagic answered "Yes" to his own question regarding chatrooms. I don't think there's any role or ability that can't be made by the generator containing such power, so I think it's very probable that TricMagic slipped and claimed to be in the mafia quicktopic by accident, without realizing what he did.

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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day One - Magma Alpaca Revenge
« on: May 10, 2019, 05:48:18 pm »
Also, here's the case I've been trying to build against KitRougard. I think this might be the first time I've tried doing something like this? I definitely can't recall the last time.

*blinks at role, sudden IC-ification of thread, lack of pokes on him*

Alright, games on. I guess.

Oh, I HAVE been poked.
Well, I'm usually reliant on hard facts to dropkick a Mafia member, and then the other Scum start panicking. It's just how Town of Salem works.
And why are you asking me that question? Because you've only seen one game out of me, and that game was baaaaaaad. So you're trying to rile me, confound me, you're doing the exact same thing you did in Tric's BYOR.

Frankly, it's kinda meh.

His very first post is dismissing a question made against him and refusing to answer it, admiting that he's reliant on "hard facts" or as he later clarified, night game. He expects scum to freak out if he attacks one of their members, saying that's how it works in Town of Salem.

Alright, I have a maybe-read that Icy isn't role fishing, he's actually the swap-prankster. His ability probably has to do with swaptastic memes, and is thus why he's prying for data on "what kind of/how many roles will I be shuffling? HMMMM."

Hector13: Why would you be delighted to exchange your role for a "useless" one, so to speak?

To be honest, I like Spin. He seems honest, up front... Superdorf, though, he seems to be tunneling a man and rolling the bandwagon along.

Hm. Shakerag, why is it important that we know how drunk you are?
Hey, didn't we just talk about pressure via votes?

Now, I feel like spitting up numbers, so here's what I feel the distribution is...
9 town
3 scum
1 SK

The SK might be grumpy, maybe they got a "Kill yourself" for their Kill ability... Actually, I now have an update question for @Hector13: Did you get pegged with a Kill Yourself role, which is why you would prefer any other role?

Pushy, I know, but I feel like I'm onto something.

Guesses that hector13 is the serial killer (which turned out to be correct.) and calls out Superdorf for tunneling Maximum Spin and pushing a bandwagon against him.  Says the scum team is 3 members, which we have all seemed to agree upon so far. In retrospective, this actually makes me think he might not be scum...

I fished deeper because a Kill Yourself counts as a Kill, which is a sign of a potential SK. It's long logic, but it makes it so you, should you be SK, can't use your other ability for risk of someone seeing you do something other than off yourself. It also inflates my ego and makes me feel like I contributed to the game.

Then again, maybe it's too good to be true. This part is very strange. He's appears to be certain and absolutely sure that hector13 is a serial killer and that there's 3 scum, which is kinda weird. This is why I first believed he might have gained this knowledge from some source, like an investigative/census ability or due to being part of scum.

Frankly, I don't expect much in the way of hard facts. That's why I'm fishing so hard - they seem like the only solid facts I can pull up. And when the other Mafioso keeps their head, well, then it's time to hunt him down like the first one.

In the meantime, aggressive swapping is an anti-town move. As it is, we have probably all figured out what the heck our roles can do. But if they shuffle, then we have to decode the use of our new role, and besides, what if Mafia or SK snag a better skill than they had before? Extremely likely in this case.

Admits to role fishing, and says he doesn't expect many "hard facts", probably because of the nature of his ability (See his own target, which would probably be most of the time himself.) Seems to stay consistent with his claim, at least.

My experience is Town of Salem, where there's powers everywhere, a lynch almost every day, and the average game takes... Oh, 30 minutes. On forums I've had Tric's BYOS Yugioh game.
Yeah. Call me a semi-vet?

Town of Salem taught me that knowing roles is knowing what matters, so thus is my addiction to roles and powers.

Seems pretty confident of his ability to hunt scum, despite having a "weak" ability. A single game of experience in forum mafia, but considers himself a semi-veteran. Not much else here. Keep in mind he has ignored a few questions, too. He later continues in another post to talk about how his strategy works on ToS to excuse why, despite these not really matching how forum mafia works, especially when roles are randomized and can be either extremely powerful and absolutely useless.

Hang on a minute, I have an attack on Hector.

We've clarified that (at least one) of his abilities is Kill Yourself, which is a Kill. That puts him in the running for being SK.

Someone mentioned "With SK that's 2 NK not just one..." Well wouldn't the SK want to get stab-happy? Unless, of course, their KILL ability is Kill Yourself...

Hector! Stand for your theoretical crimes!

Again insists on that hector13 is the serial killer, and continues to attack him. While he was right, it's true that scum would also want to get rid of the sk, and this could have been an attempt to shift town towards hector13 instead of scum.

I would control-f if I had a decent phone I was playing on, but as it is taking reading time takes up responding time, it's... Just a bad idea for me to play Mafia, let's be honest.

SUDDEN NO-PRESSURE ROLE REVEAL!
Shaken Oracle
Once per night, see the target of yourself.
Oddly useful, as it lets me know if I'm made to jump on anyone other than myself.
Last night's result was myself.

Right after his "attack" on hector, he decides to claim unprompted. Maybe as a way to reduce suspicion against him, and induce others to unfocus from him and instead focus on the serial killer. He later continues, blindly believing hector13's lie and still tunneling him, certain that he's the serial killer.


*Ahem*

 I reveal because I hope that fearlessly showing my role shows me to be town. In ToS this usually works, because Role is directly linked to Alignment. Not so here, but I still use it as a high card.

I'm seeking SK instead of Mafia because I'm locked onto him. In ToS the only way you get someone is to stay on them day after day. So against SK I stand.

Who is scummy to me? I feel like Nirur's "so many scum" reads are intended to sow chaos in the town, get fingers pointing. And Tric I physically cannot have a mental bias towards.

NOW ABOUT THAT SK!

You say you were being facetious when you said your skill was Kill Yourself. How convinent that you essentially take back your words as they get weaponized against you.
You mention your role got swapped. How convenient you have a reason with which to use your other power, the one that isn't just suicide.
No, I will not lay off.
I will dig deeper until your corpse proves me wrong.

Admits that he claimed to appear as town and gain trust, which actually makes me even more suspicious. Why would he do that out of nowhere? Then insists again on saying that we should focus on the serial killer instead of scum, which is also somewhat scummy by itself but even more so after claiming with that reasoning.

In order...

Hector, obviously. See current train I won't get off.

I'm not SK. I just hate Solo Evil with a burning passion right now because I have their scent in my nose.

Eh, I'd take a quick tutorial in scumhunt, I usually base it on Night Happenings, like I said.

Answered in my previous post, as dorf re-asked it.

How about I strengthen it in my previous post, then follow up with an attack on Nirur!

Nirur, you compliment my move against you, then taunt me into moving farther. You seem to be banking on the idea that I'm too hot for SK to take a moment to scan you. And you're half-right, I'm not skimming your posts. But I am calling out what I read as attempted "Oh yeah? Really attack me. No? Still on about SK? Look at this determined little scummie..."

You're next on my lynch-list.

This is what I'm talking about. In this post, he outright refuses to deepen his case against Leafsnail to continue focusing on the serial killer. He threatens him saying that he's next on his lynch list, but makes no move against him after that.

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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day 3 - Launch of the doctor!
« on: May 10, 2019, 04:57:46 pm »
Nirur Torir: I still know as a fact that you did visit me. If it wasn't with the ability to give your vote like you said, then what did you target me with?
Alright, fine.

The new ability is to "redirect the actions of a random target to a random player."

I don't know how I got hit with a redirect and given a redirect power on the same night.
Hold on, but wouldn't that mean that my ability should have targeted someone who wasn't me, and thus you would have appeared in the list since you didn't visit the target I was redirected to? And how do you know that you were redirected if your ability already targets a random player?

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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day 3 - Launch of the doctor!
« on: May 10, 2019, 04:27:05 pm »
Nirur Torir: I still know as a fact that you did visit me. If it wasn't with the ability to give your vote like you said, then what did you target me with?

I was about to unvote, but:

  • On Night 1, who received new power, and did anything happen to their old power? Same with Night 2.
  • Who is in a Chatroom this game?
  • Who here has the power to redirect actions?
  • Is your power day, or night?

To answer mine, No and no. Yes. No. And Day.


Wait, so with being in a chatroom you mean you are in a quicktopic?  Is this correct?

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Roll To Dodge / Re: Mad Castle : Round 4
« on: May 10, 2019, 02:29:09 pm »
Build a big bridge that conects the top of my pillar with 100,50, in which I'll build a second pillar later to connect it to the ground (or now, if I have time for that during this turn.) Hire a bunch of knights to guard the bridge and attack any intruders.

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Roll To Dodge / Re: DIG: Mummies Alive!
« on: May 10, 2019, 02:13:57 pm »
Return to the bore, since we're apparently leaving.

Spoiler: Kalagony (click to show/hide)

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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day 3 - Launch of the doctor!
« on: May 10, 2019, 02:10:08 pm »
dorf, I was and did intend to hammer that vote.

...Alright. Why? That's not pro-town behavior!

You've raised red flag after red flag as this game's progressed, and I've been passing those flags off as nulltells, because TricMagic. But it's MyLo, and this is getting ridiculous. Explain yourself, please.

That's true, but I'm voting for him just to confirm if the double voting is true and if Nirur Torir is telling the truth. TricMagic has been generally scummy, I guess? It's just that I would prefer to put the votes on him rather than vote anyone else right now if it's just to test.

Hmm. "Generally scummy" isn't good enough to lynch somebody anymore. Is TricMagic scum or no? If yes, build a case on him, and show us. If you're not sure yet, question him about the stuff that worries you so you can make a decision.

Do you still believe KitRougard to be scum? Why or why not?
Didn't I say I'm not trying to get him lynched at all right now? I thought it was clear that I'm just voting to see if I do have Nirur Torir's vote, and that I prefered to leave my votes on him just in case a lynch happens by accident. Also, didn't you say in the same post that you've seen him raise "red flag after red flag"?

About KitRougard, I think he probably has the wrong mentality about the game, and might have a similar problem like TricMagic. He continues to cite how in ToS and such powers are more important and continues to focus on the night, despite that this game's roles are randomized and it's entirelly possible that everyone could have obtained an useless role. About that, his role was kind of low-powered, which makes his focus even weirder. I'll see if I can build a case on him.

KitRougard: What report did you receive during the night? Same as yesterday?

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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day 3 - Launch of the doctor!
« on: May 10, 2019, 01:32:47 pm »
randomgenericusername: Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have somebody doing all the math and role-theory for me... but you're still not doing much to chase people down. You're voting for Tric-- do you think he's scum? If so, why?

That's true, but I'm voting for him just to confirm if the double voting is true and if Nirur Torir is telling the truth. TricMagic has been generally scummy, I guess? It's just that I would prefer to put the votes on him rather than vote anyone else right now if it's just to test.

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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day 3 - Launch of the doctor!
« on: May 10, 2019, 12:26:15 pm »
NQT: Was that a mistake?
It was a mistake. These are just errors from changing people's votes from previous vote counts.
Alright, so Superdorf didn't have a double vote during day 1 and probably isn't the vote thief. Still doesn't change the fact that someone did steal Deus' vote though. A vote count would be nice, to confirm if I do have Nirur's vote.

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Mafia / Re: Proc Gen Mafia 2 - Day One - Magma Alpaca Revenge
« on: May 10, 2019, 12:21:44 pm »
NQT: Assuming I have two votes, can I vote for two different players? Or do I just have one vote that is counted twice?

How about no Deus, as of now the test to see if either of them speaks true won't work, since they vote for the same target. It's not that hard to check, so long as Rgun actually votes for someone else than who Nirur does. Currently, he isn't.
If you insist so much then alright, I'll change my vote.

Unvote

TricMagic TricMagic


RGU, why didn't you mention the fact that your vote was definitely counted twice in that same votecount?

Votes
- IcyTea31
- Starver - Maximum Spin [1]
- randomgenericusername
- hector13- Leafsnail, Superdorf [3]
- KitRougard
- SuperDorf - KitRougard [1]
- TricMagic - randomgenericusername [2]
- Nirur Torir
- Maximum Spin - Shakerag, TricMagic, Nirur Torir, hector13, IcyTea31 [5]
- Deus Asmoth
- Shakerag
- Leafsnail
- No Vote
I noticed just after, like I said here:
Actually hold on, I'm going to continue checking the votecounts. Seems like, for some reason, I had two votes during day 1.

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