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Heh. The shortest time for me to lose a fortress was when some fire imps came from volcano after small irrigation project on embark and I sent military to kill it. Fire imps throw fireballs at military, civilians won't finish off unconscious fire imps. Fun.

Also, it may be single-biome map on embark selection, but my latest medium-term test embark has Fonio according to region-pops and isolated small biomes (about 100 tiles), despite the closest tropical savanna being entire region tile away. Biomes are far more disparate than pre-embark view suggests.

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Solon:
Sterling silver (tetrahedrite) cabinet

Sodel Rulbim:
Pig Iron statue of The Earthen Gem

Rigoth Othilmorul:
Billion statue of water buffalo.

Mistem Tishislogem:
Rose gold coffin/statue of donkey/giant bluejay.

Kobuk Kelmesir:
Perhaps bismuth bronze statue of yak. Brought any bismuthine stones for building materials on embark?

Otherwise, might need for visitor to bring it.

Kogan Kelnakuth:
Alas, the first dwarf without satisfiable valuable metal (lead is...Well, Galena is not uncommon). Otherwise, a door or Coyote men statue.

Udil Cattenolin:
Liking nickel makes you the second dwarf to not like anything very valuable. Otherwise, elk men statue seems appealing.

Overall, surprising how everyone likes a metal. Still, none of them likes steel/gold/aluminium/platnium, so  the value of iirc doubling from appeal seems rather undercut from the sheer value of those metals.

At the very least, everyone can get a building in a shape they like.

The clay statue bug is caused by the pottery job being treated as custom reaction, which doesn't get detail specifying.

Hm. Dame de la Licorne, what does your research say on praying for marriage? I believe dwarves do not talk on jobs.

That minecart setup....Are you using 3-ramp bunker to kick the cart diagonally upwards?
Though heh, a gold minecart full of gold will be pretty deadly :v
A weapon to surpass metal gear.
I approve.

However, a dog civilization, sleeping in proper beds? Now that is something I'm more surprised about. About 7 or so dogs in screenshot too, what serendipity.

More seriously, the aquifer probably shears, given your location on hilly terrain. This can reduce the workload for punching through a multilayer one with precise planning, though if it is a single-layer one don't brother :p A hatch cover and relocating pump can suffice in that case, or might just cave in a larger layer wholesale to skip on digging drainage. Or, heck, with the volcano there can perhaps use stairs to dig out a large area in the aquifer, then pour magma to have excellent living/dining area. Heck, two should also act well as natural defence against digging invaders, which can be with little thinking covered into automatic encasing trap, provided the attackers are immune to both magma and water individually.

īreveal demonsī, you mean.

Otherwise, I can imagine fire FB in invisible caverns causing a tree to collapse through the thinnest adamantine spire. Alternatively, diagonal magma pool shearing with cavern water could also cause such a cave in, though it'd be bit more esoteric. For extreme elevation shears, sometimes magma pool will reveal and spill into hell.

However, none of those would cave in an entire existing fortress anchored to the map edge. The only fort-wide cavein possible that I know about would be caused by dwarven power mining, but that seems rather unlikely to happen, barring memory bugs.

I think the more relevant discovery was that Urist had an opportunity to pronounce it - e.g. to speak of potash making in DF with someone face to face.

Can and should.

My latest embark is tropical moist broadleaf forest and grassland as well as temperate savanna and grassland.

And to answer your question, I initially started checking with farm plots and region-pops list - if it can spawn, it should be listed as innumberable, even if not present on embark....And the answers raise more questions than answers.

- I have cucumbers but not tomatillos. They have the exact same biome types.
- I can grow both on a farm plot next to a cucumber plant, so importing might be an option.
- The 5 cucumbers on embark all spawned in an area whose soil types are continuous with the tropical moist broadleaf forest.

I have been previously dismissing dfhack's probe tool reporting more biomes than site selector shows in the region screen and assuming soil lines denote biome boundaries (the biome always changes on them with probe, though). With a bit of patience, I traced the lines of biome 5 surrounding a solitary cucumber near kapok grove (grows only in tropical moist broadleaf):


With additional looking, I find that I have Fonio (Tropical Savanna only), but not teff in region-pops list. That section of the world was painted as:
SG - Savanna, Grassland, to south there are tropical biomes.
FG - Forest, grassland
SG - Savanna, grassland.

There was no tropical savanna in 16x16 embark area, the forest was too wide. Naturally, my first assumption would be that I confused savanna and grassland. So I backup and retire the fort to make sure: Yes, I remembered the biomes correctly, and nearest tropical savanna showing up in site finder is a region tile; exactly 16 embark tiles away.

Biomes shear more than I thought, and even crops that should grow are not necessarily growable. This world has no dry forests, though, albeit on another world cucumbers or tomatillos are not growable in conifer forests next to dry broadleaf ones, so you will be unable to plant them if you get some. If you want to be sure the plant will show up, my current suggestion would be to check dhack's region-pops list on embark.

On a semi-related note, giant chameleons give a ton of eggs.

*looks at raws listed in wiki*

[CLUTCH_SIZE:40:50]

Move over, cave crocsplosion.

They're kind of small for giant animals though nor large predators or war-trainable, but different biomes than saltwater crocodiles. I'm now imagining the deserts from glaciers to tropics covered by chameleon men civilizations who breed faster than goblins with that clutch size.

Deities don't exactly have just 1 sphere either. I can recall seeing a god of mountains, fortresses and trade several times.

As for playing, could be bit difficult to maintain efficiency. Getting piled by multiple disjointed alerts at once in 1 fortress is troublesome, having that for multiple forts even more so.