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Main issue is that if a card removed from the field can't resolve it's effect. That's a question I have. If so, is Bombardment a valid target to send it off, even though it has no hearts? If not, then paying the cost is viable even at 0 hearts, as it's not left the field yet.

K. As above, spells can activate at 0 hearts just fine. Being at 0 hearts doesn't really inhibit effects.

Generally, that's because the effect is one that activates automatically when the card enters play, or as a consequence of reaching 0 hearts. The difference is this one is an effect that has to be activated manually. Like, consider Magic the Gathering. If a card receives lethal damage, one doesn't get to just say "okay but hold on, let me tap it to activate this ability first, then I'll send it to my Graveyard", that's something any player would readily call an opponent out for doing.

Of course, this isn't MtG, and I won't speak for Supernerd on this front, but generally it's considered bad or awkward game design to allow a card to just ignore its destruction until after its player has decided they got enough value out of it. Of course, this is where the card Fog of War gets really awkward, because its effects can be activated 'in any order' implying multiple 'windows' of action taking place in the space of that one cast. Honestly, that's the sort of thing I would have considered vetoing for being too complicated.

Basically, we need to know whether or not the Bombardment being played on the Sweeper's death will destroy the Firebase before it can use its Star-costing ability.

"If it works..."
Dalloc draws. Her claws begin to tighten.

"I play Stygian Skiff, which allows me to play Ghost Eel."

In the wake of death and ruin, the ferryman comes to lead off the souls of the departed, and brings with him... an Eel.


"End turn."
Hearts: 17
Hand: 7
Stars: 13
Deck: 16


I'm going to say that a token would go to the graveyard.

Tric destroys a Sweeper
Hook.

God I should have put more PGWs in my fucking deck.

Edit:
also, I'm going to be very disappointed if any of you play a Mountain before I get my chance to do my big play on Tric. Just as soon as I DRAW A GODDAMNED GUNSLINGER FOR FUCKS SAKE


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Important question Supernerd: do Tokens go to the graveyard, or are they removed from the game on discarding?

You could say the same about flipping cards though. You'd either have to play a bunch of quickplay cardflip effect, have cards that can flip themselves or be played facedown, or take at least a turn winding up and flipping all your stuff facedown.

I mean sure it does(probably) take a turn flipping all of your cards face down, preventing you from doing anything else. But it'd take that plus stars to instead make all of said cards not take the damage. As for the firebase v PGW comparison, I mean, they really... aren't equivalent in role. PGW is only a face nuker. If you have even a single card that can survive the damage of the Bombardment by even one point without a 'no defending' clause she literally can't touch you for at least one more turn.

Firebase, while it may not survive the blast of Bombardment, will kill literally anything in the game thus far, including the PGW, and can deal an entire 3rd or more of the opponents Hearts directly to their face if they're undefended. It can do what the PGW can do only slightly worse, while also not having her core weakness, and can essentially allow you to cast a very solid damage spell once per turn without taking up a card slot.

Yeah, I think that makes sense.

So essentially the reason why only Storm Cell was nerfed of the two is that it's essentially a "deal 4 damage to all enemy cards", whereas Bombardment doesn't have any clause that allows its player to reasonably block the damage without exceptionally expensive outside cards.