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A "hospital" with available storage furniture will automatically start collecting supplies up to the limit set by the player.
Same goes for the inn and the library, so why not have something similar for barracks, we could finally get some actual use out of the armor-stands and weapon-racks...

Military and armories specifically are not working as intended and need a bug-fixing pass, if not a rework to some degree or another. This has been acknowledged by Toady.

That said, an armory Location (with a quartermaster who maintains and stocks the armory, perhaps) with armour stands, weapon racks, and misc. containers (ones that that actually work and can hold a couple axes or a suit without failure and without dfhack), along with standing orders of what items of what material and quality to stock (similar to hospitals* and taverns, just with more control) and from which Military dwarves take equipment from... That would be nice.

*though more control over the hospital, such as "prefer animal hair, disallow giant cave spider silk and HFS strands, and stop auto-loom when below ## of threads" would also be welcome.

these 2 suggestions sound awesome. ive just started using bins again and many of my dwarves are missing a ton of missing specific backpack/flask/quiver.

or a new noble position. having additional reequipment checks like the update stockpile record converted to reassign equipments and schedule pickups. and probably (as others stated) force reequip on demand.

ah, thanks for pointing me in the right direction from the biomemanipulator thread. both tools are very nice to have for setting up ideal embarks, kudos.

i usually set basic clothing armour until i have a bunch of masterwork gear on hand, then mass switch the uniform with shift enter. it eases the pain of having almost all of them constantly picking up equipments, and the new bug pf demanding a specific equipment after returning from an offsite mission.

currently there are only a few workshop chaining orders IIRC, like fishing-process raw fish, spin/process thread-weave, butcher-tan skin. i know there are a couple more but i cant remember on the top of my head. what if they were expanded, and if dwarves had the required labors enabled, they automagically do them, instead of walking away.

expanding old workshop chaining

an old example would be a butcher with tanning labor also enabled will try to queue both jobs at once. fishing is a bit of a mess IMHO, no idea how theyd queue both as fishermen tend to drop their catch on the ground for someone else to either stockpile or process it. maybe a more efficient method using the same old backpack to store freshly caught fish (and expanding the decay timers) to queue both fishing and processing jobs.

new job chaining - a new job replacement queue. probably too cpu intensive ATM

dwarves should be much more responsible. a dwarf who takes milking/shearing jobs should also put the creature back in its pasture. pen/pasture jobs are really low priority jobs, and having to wait for someone else to queue it months later is frustrating. this literally applies to just about everything from harvesting to crafting. ive seen many farmers/herbalists drop their crops on the ground only for someone else to put it in the stockpile, while they have no job queued for a while. a hauling craftsdwarf (like a carpenter) should be able to decide to also do a carpentry job while theyre at it hauling the log.

another example, many miners doing a long range mining job just to do 1 tile and back again, versus many miners canceling their long range mining job because 1 miner got their first and replaced the job queue.

just 1 more example i can think of on the top of my head, clothing. the wiki says in order to book a clothing, they go through an extensive thought process. what if we made it much more extensive by tacking on 'stuff the old clothing in a bin and disown it' instead of just dropping it owned?

cancellations

there should also be better job cancellations too. ive seen many militia dwarves still hauling heavy stuff like stone or clay while switching to their active training duty. they should just drop their current job/item before switching. this also applies to civilian dwarves running away from something. ive seen some of them still hauling stone and stuff while running away. it sort of defeats the purpose of the 'running away' part.

military dwarves with inactive targets should also be able to cancel their target. if we tell squad A to kill something B, and dwarf C is still sleeping/eating/drinking/training session. dwarf C will go to where something B was at, and stare at the sky for a few days. they should automagically know that something B was killed and queue up a different job.

extra - make any job high priority (do now - n)

we should also be able to go through the job menu and add a high priority (like in workshops) on any job. i dont think job priority will ever be modifiable, but please give players something that allows it to shift it in our favors.

1 more extra - linking workshops to workshops, and reworking the AI

i tend to dislike stockpiles, and stockpile linking is very iffy. what if linked stockpile/workshops were recommended instead of required, or set a tolerancy level? 0 for default strict required behavior and 1 for more lenient recommended?

the ole butcher/tanner example.
both set to 1 - standard vanilla antics. i tend to have many butcher/tanner shops close together in many locations. 1 tanner shop in my cavern pasture will take a raw skin from a butcher shop on the surface and vise versa.
tanner set to 0 - tanner will only tan a hide from the linked butcher shop, and with both labors active will queue both jobs.

weapon balancing does seem like a tough issue, as id consider wep sets OP. what if you removed all solo weps? i love them BTW because it 'imitates' dwarves using their secondary weapon instead of bashing with their crossbow, while also using a shield. id give my militia marksman arms and my guards highwayman arms. currently im in a more serious play through, but i might test out 2 armies using only wepsets.

more 'hidden' (or removed) body parts would be a blessing IMHO, i hope you do make magic. thered be much fewer teeth, ears nose ETC to haul. having them hidden for all creatures would make my gameplay better, not too sure about others. im anti hunter, so i send out my noob squad to hunt game from time to time.

great mod overall, it eases the pain when marksdwarves arent smart enough to switch to their 2nd weapon.

the more sensible naming thing is nice with the update. i also took it a bit further by renaming chain mittens and chausse to mails, and gave leggings a padded prefix for a bit more 'sensibilty'.

id like to request some magic. is it possible to have an unholy baby of a quiver/flask/backpack? or probably a ranged weapon set + quiver? recently ive been seeing a few dwarves having missmatches from usually quivers, and sometimes flasks. it happens from time to time in vanilla. DT says the dwarf was missing specific quiver/flask. removing them/their equipment usually fixes this.

i played a lot long time ago and have always been careful around miners, woodcutters and hunters so it isnt that.

LNP R6

above ground pitting (+1 Z)

anyone having mass pitting problems? ive set a large area above ground as a cage stockpile and made sure theyre only 1 tile away from a pit covered in a pet blocked floor hatch as per wiki. even though ive zoned the entire area as a pit only, it correctly counts the floor hatches as the pits. the problem is at least most of the time (after every pit cycle) all of them have been able to escape and attack. am i doing something wrong?


i can only think of 3 things; im missing something obvious, 'disable all other animal stockpiles' is required, or the wiki is outdated.

having quicksaved and stuff in and out of the game, a stationed militia squad doesnt seem to affect the pitting problem. they instantly charge when they detect the problem of not pitting. the 1st will always succeed, and the target will fall down through the hatch no problem. everyone else 'survives' the pitting and instantly attacks the pitter. when the pit 'restarts' (no more pitting jobs), everything runs fine again. do i really have to pit 1 at a time?

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