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Well, after some major league messing around,I managed to questport far away with the demon in tow, and then questported back next to the fortess for fairness. (It seems to questport out of non-travel zones, you actually have to pin a quest...) After questporting it now follows me around like a normal companion/bound  demon. I have, however discovered something... interesting.

This demon is two historical figures.

No, there aren't two of it... but this one, single demon is in fact two identical historical figures. I noticed two of it listed as my companions, and upon checking legends mode (the data there was exported before I starting dfhacking this guy) it only shows up once in the list of historical figures, but it shows up as being twice related to the dark fortress (the first two historical figures, indeed) yet, both links divert to the same demon, not a copy, as "both" created the slab and stored it in the vault, but the vault only dealt with one.



So,  apparently it double-lived in that dark fortress and it's currently my companion twice. Upon digging some more, it seems every Dark Fortress I'd entered to any extent (including just loading the site and not reaching any towers, in the case of this demon, at the time of the legends data export) has had not only its master relate twice to it, but one histfig for every "building" constructed within has been associated twice. I'd put it down to  the new Legends Viewer being broken with its "related historical figures" display, if not for the fact the game agrees and the demon became my companion twice. I'll probably experiment on my new-version world, once I'm able, but for this, this is... yeah. Oh, and Legends viewer still sees this even on an old export of the world data, from it's never even been loaded into the new version - and still, the weirdness seems to affect each dark fortress that I've visited SINCE then.

What even.

So, this might be a save compatibility issue, but I'm reasonably sure 43.05 saves are still meant to be compatible with 44.10.

My rather powerful adventurer from 43.05 has acquired the second slab of his career. Funny story, the first clown i had with me still lives in some dark pits after he ignited the grass and trapped himself on all sides, and I had to leave him. Clown indeed. I've used the mighty Legends mode to confirm that the slab I've read, and am carrying, is that of the demon I'm currently visiting. As I stand, with the slab in my hand, literally reading it again in front of the demon's face, I still don't have either chat option available to banish/bind this demon.

Are saves incompatible, or is this just not a thing you can do any more? Or has the process been altered somehow?

I just got told to seek a hydra in its lair "Eatendepth the Lownesses of Wetting".

I once went into sneak mode, crept up behind a Roc at its shrine, grabbed it by the throat from behind and strangled it to death.. It didn't even manage to fight back.

I sent the army to raid a nearby goblin pit.

They sneaked in and sneaked out again. No hostile action was taken. That's not how you war, guys ;_;

Seriously, I was hoping for mass murder of the goblins I'm at war with. Turns out they just sneak in and then leave peacefully.

As for undead sieges having weapons, that's only because they spawn with them. A zombie is allowed to hold a weapon, but they're never actually allowed to pick a weapon up, so any dead who are raised by necromancy will be forever unarmed. Anything that gets turned undead by evil mist, however, will not be forced to drop its gear.

And, yes, you can resurrect their head and body. You can also resurrect their hands (or their upper/lower arm, which will include the hand unless it was removed separately). And your own hands. Pretty useless, but excellent distractions. Beware, however, not to go for targeted attacks when you're near too many of them. If the number of possible targets, own undead included, adjacent to you is too big to list, you'll instantly lock the game by pressing shift+A - it sounds easy to avoid, but I've had to force close a fair few times after my swarm of undead broke the game.

A vile force of darkness has arrived!

An army of goblins has besieged my fortress, numbering no less than....... six.

Five ranged goblins, seemingly led by a recruit. The recruit decided to employ some advanced strategy - he and one of the crossbowmen spawned in a tree! However, they quickly hit an unexpected snag - A flock of emus was passing by! Immediately the bowman and crossbowmen began assaulting the emus with full force, while the recruit decided the emus were too much and ran away instantly. From a tree.

As my 10-man mostly-elite militia charged to the scene, they triggered another alert - Snatcher! Protect the children!
I noticed the goblin snatcher was flashing, and upon closer inspection, the it was in fact a goblin lady consort. A spearmaster split from the group, crippled the lady consort who had decided that sneaking through a battle unarmed was wise and stranged the slinking filth to death.

Meanwhile, the rest of the militia exterminated the 4 goblins on the ground, having taken no hits that were not dodged or shield-blocked. Then, the one who'd spawned in a tree, while hardier than their leader and willing to brave emus, ran away too.


Seriously, though - don't thieves usually carry daggers or something? And was it really wise to send in a Lady Consort as a snatcher? (Even ignoring the fact they tried to sneak undetected through the same spot where their pathetic 6-man siege was waging war on emus) I guess they have a chance of sending noteworthy goblins like noble consorts in as snatchers? Now I'm kind of hoping they send in someone even more important to get slaughtered... while their military dick around in a tree fighting emus.