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I've been trying to find a MMO I'd like to play (tried EVE, made into the APB beta and I'm now considering trialing Global Agenda and even WoW), but I'm not seeing any so far. With EVE I felt like all the things I do won't matter at all unless I decide to play it for longer and thus start to pay for it.

I guess my biggest problem is paying for the games as I don't want to feel like I have to play to not waste money. I want to play because it's fun. Also, I hate the fact that all progress and characters are effectually lost forever when you stop paying.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I play a kind of MMO: Kingdom of Loathing. It has a funny and clever world with great writing. I've been enjoying making loads of meat (the currency) on the market in it and I'm seeing the thing that keeps people playing MMOs: I've invested enough time and thought for the game to feel I'm losing a lot if I stop playing altogether. Thankfully one can jump in and out of that game without losing anything but opportunities for making meat and achieving the goals you want to achieve.

Finally they changed it. I kind of hope they would've done this yonks ago as I still don't have a random hat after some 200 hours of play (and 100 hours of idling/spectating) since they were introduced. I probably won't get one now either, but at least the someday I'll get enough weapons to craft one is closer than before.

And I think Valve doesn't need to apologize to idlers, idling was just an attempted fix to this system not being fun and fair, which it is more so now.

_{Double post for interesting news}!

A (spoilery) blog post about new achievements in the Passing.

The cool ones are foot lockers and Fallen Survivors! Also the L4D1 survivors come to help and can kill a Tank on their own!


And then, the last words by Valve:

And of course, we saved the best for last: the "Mutant Overlord" achievement, which you can only get by playing six Mutations.

Right about now you might be asking yourself, "What in the hell is a Mutation?" "Why do I have to play six of them?" "Are there more than six?" "Where's that smell coming from?" All good questions. Look for most of the answers in our Wednesday blog post.

Mutations!?! Special infected crossbreeds?

Official yet roundabout word from Valve: The Passing is coming next week!:

So enough worlds colliding, when is "The Passing" coming out? Well... if it was coming out next week we would say right here - Left 4 Dead 2's The Passing is coming out next week and we will be updating the blog next week with more news on the release. There you go.

(blog post)

Whee!

Yay! Telltale is the best!

They talked to Valve, made a deal and the people that pre-ordered from them (and possibly those that buy the game even now) get the items after all!

Telltale and Valve are clearly my favourite developers (Bay12 is beyond favourites), they actually know their customers are people and not just walking wallets.

Sam and Max update.

http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3698&p=1

Blargh, I already pre-ordered, from Telltale. 

Otherwise, really cool.

EDIT: Telltale offers the opportunity to change to Steam pre-order, but that would make me lose the free shipping I got from them. Oh cruel world!

Got a beta key, but my launcher keeps prematurely trying to unzip/install before I download all the files I need.  FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffff :<

I had that yesterday too, along with the launcher opening and closing sporadically. It seems to work much better now.