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Quote from: ReynTheLord on October 27, 2016, 08:58:46 pm

Someone who was human was elected to be the leader of some demons.

[...]

Lliuk: I'm going to address the issue of becoming some sort of leader for these guys, and learning about their past, later. I'll address the fact that as a demon, I have insane resistance to fire, pretty much immunity actually. I could just waltz through a forest fire no problem. And my memories are still intact. I'm going to take a while to check up on the history of these demons.... it's rather odd...

SCIENCE SUCCESSFUL

Edit: Just to be clear, this was also not an "intended consequence". It is, however, an acceptable consequence.

Edit2: How did they determine that Erin Lliuk was a human-turned-demon? Did he tell them, or did they read his journal, or what? Is there a distinguishing detail about demons that originated as other types of sentients, or do demons have the ability to see the past?

Mix of journal peeking and a reaction to the transformation ritual. I've been playing a lot of masterwork recently, But i'm going back to axosepindas.

Also, Lliuk becoming a ruler wasn't even intended. It just happened randomly to be honest.


EDIT: I hope you're ok with me shifting this over to masterwork. It'll be the same names, don't worry

Oddly enough, i've gone months without a single raid. years even, ingame I mean. Damn it, I need an excuse to post some "They're taking the hobbits to isengard" Memes.

Quote from: ReynTheLord on October 28, 2016, 09:53:17 am

I'm being executed at the end of the day anyways. I'm just going to be honest. I'm scum. Now, I could help the town, as I have a kill ability AND night investigations which allow me to determine someones role exactly. Now could I please either die in peace or live to help the town?

Reyne, the person with the most votes was Urist...

they were unvoting and going for me. I'm admitting scum. My night investigation ability might be of use.

unvote



I Fucking admit to being scum, ok? If you want to lynch me, feel free to do so. Just remember that I have a night inspection which may be helpful to you.

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THats my errorlog. I'm using the most recent version, Dfhack on. default tileset, and I changed a few settings, as in putting all the random creatures on.

Title says it all

Because...
Okay.

ReynTheLord:

It still gives us more to work with. Regardless of what you say, people are going to assume you're lying. But it'll still help. So. Alignment claim, please.

Why are you still voting No Lynch, anyway? You've seen the

Quote from: fillipk on October 27, 2016, 02:18:41 pm

Spoiler: On D1 No-lynches (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Bookthras

I'm not an IC, but I once wrote a rant about nolynches on Day One that I think would be beneficial for this audience, so I quote it below. In brief, you can (i.e., it's a valid vote, and if it has majority no lynch will happen) but you shouldn't unless you have a very very good reason. Actual ICs will, of course, chime in with their own thoughts, and there are different considerations to be had in subsequent days; the below applies only for D1.

Quote from: Bookthras on May 08, 2012, 09:31:27 pm

Even in a game like this, or a role-heavy game like a BYOR, paranormal, or bastard, without a D1 lynch people will lack context for the conversation during the day, which is the very point of the day game. The information lost is not just the flip of a person, but who voted them, with what arguments, and forms the very foundation of how the town power roles will choose their night actions. Information is key, and timely information moreso. People flipping at the start of D2 is not nearly as useful, and a nolynch will result in people using their powers on whoever they were voting (if block/investigate) or a crapshoot for protections and the like, due to lack of context and closure.

A D1 no-lynch pretty much wastes all of D1 content, and gives scum a chance to NK/convert/whatever while town has to shoot in the dark. The amount of information lost is not small, but most importantly, you lose the opportunity to use it. N1 will never come again. Even if you learn the information later, you'll never get that night back, which scum got for free. Not good for town at all.

Quote from: Hapah on May 08, 2012, 07:22:06 pm

Also considering the fact that the D1 lynchee is almost always town (when was the last time anyone saw a scum hang D1?),

Not that rare. The very last game I played (Cybrid Mafia 3) we lynched scum D1. A couple games before that (Politibastard) as well, though that was a... different sort of game. I'm sure there are several others.

So sure, it doesn't happen that often, but it certainly does happen. Plus the possibility of a mislynch is built into the balance of the game. If there is going to be one, it's best for town that it happens sooner rather than later, so maximum information is provided early. It's never good, but a D1 no-lynch is worse.

Please disabuse yourself of the notion that a D1 no-lynch is good for town ever. Except in very narrow types of games where constant (not just D1) no-lynch can be used to break the setup (which is not the case here), whenever you think a D1 no-lynch is good because it's cautious, it's misapplied caution, and will hurt town much more than a possible mislynch would.

Rant, right? Any lynch is better than no lynch on information terms.

Quote from: ReynTheLord on October 27, 2016, 03:19:55 pm

However, I'm not one to risk accidentally killing someone really important.

Okay. So we don't kill anybody, don't lynch anybody. That sort of hesitation will get you nowhere. Except maybe, it might get you into Losetown. Because then mafia gibs everybody.
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Everybody who has not answered the Night Action Type question I asked everybody: please answer it, it'll be helpful tomorrow. And after that.

Third party. Nonhostile.

ReynTheLord:

Quote from: ReynTheLord on October 26, 2016, 09:42:14 am

I don't have any votes.

This is only an excuse to not do anything if your only goal is to not get lynched, i.e. you're scum.

Quote from: ReynTheLord on October 26, 2016, 02:34:44 pm

Quote from: Tiruin on October 26, 2016, 02:29:28 pm

Quote from: ReynTheLord on October 26, 2016, 02:18:17 pm

Quote from: Tiruin on October 26, 2016, 02:12:04 pm

Reyn: What is your goal this game; how do you plan to achieve it?

My goal is to win, Have fun,and not let this get in the way of school, too much. I ask the same question in relation to you, Tiruin.

Define your idea of winning, please.

Mine is catching scum, lynching or by action (although I can't kill and while I can inspect/random-other-action-that-is-nonkill), and in general have fun while going all power-silly and having a lighthearted approach in the daygame while in the same aiming to forward my wincondition.

You have an answer to the question--what will you do with it?

Achive whatever Wincon I have. That's how you win, of course.

And that wincon is obviously not town, since if it was you would have told us. So what is it?

FoU: I guess I'm probing?

Quote from: FallacyofUrist on October 27, 2016, 08:27:42 am

I would like to note, for future reference, that this looks like a bandwagon on me. Mainly because hector's voting me because reasons(which seems reasonable), but the other two are only going with "I agree with hector". I'd bet at least one of the three people voting me are scum.

Seriously, I think this absolute avoidance of bandwagoning (and taking bandwagoning as the highest level of scumtell) actually hurts town play. People see someone agree with someone else and automatically go "bandwagoning scum!" Sometimes you just see a case and agree with it, and that's totally okay.

FoU, Tiruin, UXLZ, TBF, TDS, fillipk: Y'all know how to play. Why aren't you voting for anyone?

If I said that wincon, someone would assume i'd be lying anyways.