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The only reason I don't have 700 tabs is that I turn off my computer every day and close all the tabs. I read lots of wikis like TvTropes.

Navalny is a clown. He is an useful clown (to the opposition cause), but still a clown. Would do nothing against the oligarchs even if he or his followers somehow ended up in power, ensuring Russia would remain or turn back in short order to the same hellhole. I support the relatively disorganized socialist/neocommunist opposition more tbh. Whatever they bring can't be worse.

У нас в России есть такая традиция - каждые 100 лет наступать на те же грабли.

Just noticed this was added (failure chances shown):


Good QOL.

Will Cataclysm NPCs ever have good AI as it is in Dwarf Fortress?

Well I am cis (though bi/pan) and I support people expressing their identity as best as possible. I might not fully understand but I am fully supportive and accepting.

I don't play very much of either game, but didn't DDA remove the cyberpunk lore stuff? That's why cybernetics are tied to a specific faction?

I enjoy cyberpunk and the world pre-cataclysm being more interesting, so I think I'd play BN just for that reason.

Yeah and I wanted a modern setting. But your opinion is valid.

I mean, I don't see how skills and proficiencies represent different things. They represent knowledge and experience, so why aren't they one more complex system rather than being separate? This is how DF works.

DF doesn't work that way, it has a lot of separate skills that don't affect each other. I don't see a way to do it without clogging up the skill menu, which is even less elegant.

Well put, Putnam.

1. And you can satisfy the needs of your community, proficiencies are not stopping you from doing that. And sitting and crafting plate/survivor armor without fighting anything before is just boring to me. Maybe it's not boring to you but to me it's lame gameplay. Not in my interest to just shuffle things around at base and then waiting for a progress bar to fill up. There's a lot of that right now of course but that doesn't mean I want even more.
2. You're wrong on the first point, again they said it will be automated when implemented (and there's an explicit moratorium on "press S to shit" mechanics). And actually human waste will only be added (in an abstracted way) when faction camps are more developed wrt that so that you can indeed make things out of it. But a lone survivor won't "make" enough to be worth implementing anyways. And yes there's an intended playstyle, sort of. But again I am fine with it. I don't think it should be a pure sandbox game, if I wanted that I'd go fire up modded Minecraft.

Like your whole argument is pretty subjective and I respect it, but I feel we just have a fundamental difference in what we want out of Cataclysm. And that's fine, you have your fork for that sort of thing. I just want you guys to understand where I am coming from.