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Edit: oh you changed your post, now my comment doesn't make sense anymore.

Ah well, feel free to follow indeed

Yeah, changed it once I realized I misinterpreted what the whole project was about.

We can still use this thread to share our general v.45(?) stories IMO, there are bound to be some awesome ones.

Oh, I can see that now. I was just wondering what that last "?" icon was.

I've noticed (last time I checked, anyway, which was a few months ago) that the wiki still has almost nothing on worldgen artifacts, prophets or secret identities beyond just acknowledging here and there that they exist, despite the fact that all three have been in the game for just about two years now.

Of course. And probably. But...

What are we doing when the only options being contemplated are "Drink" or "Don't Drink"? Especially when we all know that "Drink" is the option that will be popularly chosen because it's obviously better for the story? All we are saying to MM is "Go on". He could have drawn the next part of the story at the same time, in that case. We accept that he has already decided what story drivers will happen when the stuff is drunk, that's fine. No one is saying "Drink, and then x or y should happen in the vision" because we know it's already decided. That's okay, we're not writing the story. But when our contributions are basically "Go on" and the next scene could have been drawn right after the last without input we aren't really interacting with the story.

It's something MM may not have thought of to flavor what he already wants to do. Permanent blindness and pain could be a result. Or death. None of which needs to be an end to the story or make it less entertaining. It's also a disservice to MM to assume that punishment is all he has in his kit-bag when he has complete agency over events. He's hardly limited to punitive options and there's little evidence that he prefers them. Rather than "go on" let's think of things that give him options outside of the main plot already penciled in.

In this example it could be something as simple as an eye color change. Or it could be something mystical, like having eyes that can see dead spirits. Or it could impress/offend the vulture tribe and earn us the acclaimed/infamous title of Noi the Eyes of Juice. Maybe half the tribe is impressed and the other half offended, creating a vulture tribe schism and potential for political plot and antagonism in that regard. Or it could be nothing more than looking like an uncultured idiot. Importantly, any of that could happen along with whatever is already planned for the cactus-juice. We don't need to brainstorm ideas for every direction we suggest but we should try to offer directions that, with only a little imagination, leave the way open for extra plot points.

We were very close to having the bird dance idea voted down because of conservatism.

+1. What's the point of an interactive story if you don't take risks?

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Plus who knows how this tribe will react to their offer being refused? For all we know it's a choice between a little sickness and public execution. For me at least, the decision is obvious.

I've had the first problem in spades (for me the exception is the adventurer who doesn't crash the game when I unretire him), though I can't say I've ever spawned as a random histfig when attempting to unretire someone (sounds kinda fun honestly ).

I will never forgive myself for not discovering this thread until today. Why did no one tell me this exists?

Guillotines would actually be pretty cool. Maybe not for dwarves, but perhaps for humans once they become playable?