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I just love this feature. I have an improvement suggestion. Your own settlement on the map has no number for population. I know my settlement has 110 population, but should't map show it as well? It shows population for other settlements. Just a thought. Ignore it maybe?

Quote from: Sarmatian123 on January 19, 2018, 02:44:41 am

Quote from: KittyTac on January 19, 2018, 02:37:33 am

I think a shield's material doesn't matter for its ability to block.

No. Neither quality, nor material. I cherish that fact. Simple, fast and easy defense for military Dwarves at start of the game. Even if you stick them besides shield only with copper/steel hammers.

However shield's material doesn't block ability to have shield named and put into your artifact list. For some reason. This naming mechanics is killing me... It should be limited to adamantium items imho.

Nah. In worldgen, people name regular items. Maybe it should be an init option.

Really? Then I hate those people. Whatever limits this naming madness... I am for it.

I think a shield's material doesn't matter for its ability to block.

No. Neither quality, nor material. I cherish that fact. Simple, fast and easy defense for military Dwarves at start of the game. Even if you stick them besides shield only with copper/steel hammers.

However shield's material doesn't block ability to have shield named and put into your artifact list. For some reason. This naming mechanics is killing me... It should be limited to adamantium items imho.

dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Forgotten_beast
"Forgotten beasts are hard to catch, being both [TRAPAVOID] and [NOSTUN]; however trapping them is not impossible. All webbed creatures become vulnerable to traps, except for the ones that have a webbing attack of their own: having a giant cave spider shoot web on your cage traps will render them into perfect FB-proof nets. Your new prizes can be put to various uses; the most obvious ones consist in dropping them onto various invaders - forgotten beasts are hostile toward each other and will attack any wildlife or civilized creature they may encounter - but with careful micromanagement, the opportunities are limitless."

So I guess this trick I wrote about works on FBs in general, but not on web-attack FBs. [nostun] makes any attempts at knocking them off futile as well. There is no way, you can put webbing FB in cage.

You could always try to make tiny 3x1 room with floor, roof and walls out of clear glass blocks. Still, a wall is a wall and if Dwarves could see FB through it, they would still freak out.

I'm a Pokémon/Forgotten Beast collector. Our Fortress was established to house the largest Mint for our Nation in addition to taming/capturing all new exotic species/beasts.

So, a bit of a role-playing, a bit of hobby-collecting, & a lead-up to a nice Colosseum show-down fight that'll occur during the Centennial Anniversary Party.

I see. First create the silk farm with this FB, like I suggested. Next build some cage traps in the webbing room and put dog on chain to get FB to spit some webs all around there. Then using bridges make path for FB to walk through those webbed cage traps. Bait with another chair or something? I read on wiki, though never actually tried it out, that webbed cage traps can still capture web spinning FBs.

If the webbed cage traps fail, make sure you can walk FB back to its part of the silk farm. Even if it can't be in zoo, it can still be functional part of your fortress.

I think I've heard crossbows work okay against things that seem like they should be invulnerable to everything.

I noticed my oak bolts kill pretty effectively animals, while some other types of wooden bolts just bounce off from animals to no end. Use willow bolts for training maybe?

Thing with FB is that they are hostile to each other and to goblin invasions. They also kill anything alive on sight. So capturing FB in a room closed by a bridge ASAP, before FB dies uselessly on map, is your highest priority. Disable hauling jobs on miners. Put all stockpiles collecting from outside to "collect from linked only". Forbid all wheelbarrows and other stuff outside burrow. Enlarge burrow temporarily to dig a hole for FB ASAP.

Sometimes you can use FB, depending what material it is made of, to:
- train your marksdwarves on them (shooting from 1 level above for the dust, I guess)
- collect cheap FB silk, but still silk, in a silk farm (use chained dogs as bait and bridges to control production)
- destroy irredeemable FBs made of weaker stuff (risky business, as you can lose your precious FB, better just floor roof in the room and use a cave in on rejects, or release it during invasion)
- use FB in traps and dust-fire-poison-web shooting towers (I think you need to use 2 lines of fortifications, when the trap is set for demons passing by)

What I am getting sad over is Titans. They can learn and can be caged like regular animals. However Titans don't breed and it is a soft naked target with no economic uses for it. Intelligent species, not only hostile, but also animals are getting me so sad when they are being hunt down by my hunters. I wish I didn't have to kill them, but it is what you always have to do with uninvited immigrants/invaders. ~ Indeed, so breathtakingly sad... I wish we could catch them, retrained them, and make slave colony of these specimen. If they could haul stuff and be a meat shield for my Dwarves during invasions, I would even create for them their own shelters on my embarks and five them tools, armor and weapons, though no cloths (their degradation eats into fps). Using Trolls instead alpacas could be interesting, because of alpacas' grazing factor.