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Well, I definately want to retrieve them. The idea is to breed a whole mess of cows or other critters, for their leather.

So, if I put them into an animal pit, they won't sit around with a big question mark trying to pathfind their way out? That sounds perfect.

Nevermind, I missed the bit where magma smelters still require coke 

That's just silly that you need fuel when you have LAVA

It's just for making steel. Steel is just iron with a high carbon content, and you get that from adding the coke. You need less fuel since you don't use any coal for heat, just for carbonizing, but you still need some.

I've actually gotten to digging them in particular shapes. I'm not sure how you guys draw things on this forum but I bet it's hard.

I start with a 3x4 foyer, which has double-doors leading to the hallway and double-doors leading into a 5x4 throne room. Theres a single door in the foyer that leads to a 4x4 dining room, and the dining room has a single door that connects to a 4x4 bedroom. The whole thing is in the shape of a square. A staircase in the foyer goes to the civic building attached; that's the catacomb, the prison, the vault, or the dungeon master's lair. The City Hall and Justice Building expand on that by having another 4x4 dining room and 4x4 bedroom on the other side of the foyer. For City Hall, those two rooms become offices. For the Justice Building they belong to the Hammerer.

If I can get my fort to last long enough I'm going to try having my Baron and Baron Consort share a bedroom and dining room. I don't know why they want to have their own individual dining room and bedroom, but I figure if they're good enough they won't mind sharing.

This is the first fort I've had that had cave spiders in it. I'm a bit curious about the mechanics of vermin, now.

My fort has a couple of neat things on the map, which turned out to be really close together, and right where I was building my fort. The bottomless pit with the lava glob was obvious from the start, and I built next to it. The underground pool I discovered while my miners were digging out a housing block... which made it a really frustrating discovery, but interesting as well. I walled it up so the monsters couldn't get out, but a cave spider had already escaped and I started finding occasional spider webs in my fort.

There's a lot of spider webs around the pool, and the monsters don't seem to be interested in leaving the water so they don't break them.

My first question about these things is, do they work as real spider webs? As in, do vermin get caught in the webs and killed by the spiders? I've noticed miasma clouds appearing in regions of the bottomless pit where I can only see spider webs, and a number appear in a certain corridor in my fort. The corridor is just four blocks away from the underground pool.

So my other question is, are vermin calculated in larger areas than block-by-block? Along with the cave spiders and webs that occasionally appear just in that small area of corridor, I've seen a few olms appearing. It would make sense if the region around the water was spawning olms where it could, even though the pool is completely walled in.


What in the heck ARE olms anyway?

*puts a legendary engraving of goblins on the wall* Alright everybody it's time for the minute of hate!

I've never had this problem before, but my Marksdwarves dwarves are throwing this announcement "name cancels Shooting at Archery Range: No Floor Space." What does that mean?

There are currently three completed archery targets in the range, out of ten that are under construction. There are a lot of stones on the ground, but that's it, otherwise the room is empty. It's a 14x10 room. Each archery range is declared as its own room, which takes up 11x10 of the room; it makes the dwarves stand past the door when they shoot, instead of shooting through people walking into the room.

It only seems to happen when another dwarf is using the archery range, but it keeps repeating as they keep trying. Then they go back to the ammo stockpile and try to put their arrows back in a bin, but cancel that job because the item is misplaced. I just saw them run to my wood crafter's shop to pick up some bolts that hadn't been delivered yet, ignoring the bolts that were in the ammo stockpile next to the archery range.

What's going on? At first I thought maybe it was because of the stones on the floor, maybe I should report this as a bug?

Everybody is always talking about their Noble-killing devices and it's got me wondering...

Does anybody other than me ever try to do what the Nobles want?

I find it rather inspiring. In my last couple forts I made a whole 'city hall' for the Mayor to live in, and built my catacomb underneath. There's even offices for in case I decide to have my mayor and broker/organizer be different dwarves.

The Captain of the Guard and the Hammerer get to share a house, and the prison is built underneath.

I build single mansions for the Tax Collector and the Dungeon Master. The Tax Collector gets a house with a money vault underneath it for storing my fortress's coins, and a smaller vault for guarding unused artifacts. The Dungeon Master gets some cages, for when I eventually get beasties for him to coddle, and his own personal kennels, to practice animal training.


I always try to keep stocks of my noble's favorite materials on hand, so that I can fulfill their demands. It adds a lot of direction to my forts that wouldn't be there otherwise.