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http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Ethic

Since wiki seems at a loss-

I was wondering on playing with civ dynamics for wars and such - already got fire sphere worshipper civs to always declare war on river sphere worshiping elves and humans with 100% accuracy(cross sphere religious wars - good article http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Sphere there and mod them in), but I would like to know the order of intensity of ethics tags to play civs off each other more than eating sapient beings and animal/plant mistreating.

I'm guessing in order of acceptability

ACCEPTABLE
PERSONAL_MATTER
MISGUIDED
JUSTIFIED_IF_GOOD_REASON
JUSTIFIED_IF_NO_REPERCUSSIONS
JUSTIFIED_IF_EXTREME_REASON
JUSTIFIED_IF_SELF_DEFENSE
ONLY_IF_SANCTIONED
SHUN
APPALLING
PUNISH_REPRIMAND
PUNISH SERIOUS
PUNISH_EXILE
PUNISH_CAPITAL
UNTHINKABLE 

NOT_APPLICABLE

Ouch. That's all I have to say.

I had an ambush, and then a siege. Both times most of my dwarves hunting and cutting wood and hanging about outside the base were slaughtered. Then the Royal Guard and some haulers ran out and were turned into wood arrow pincushions.

I raised the drawbridge but some elves were inside my castle walls, most of them fell to traps and my marksdwarves before being mopped up by hammerdwarves.

The siege I thought was a bug because the siege was announced but there was no one on the map until I checked the units list. Sneaky little buggers.

So apparently if your starting dwarf civ was at war with the elves when you embarked, have fun.

After all the "elves are cannibals" and "elf zerg rush kekekekeke" threads, this is a new thread to celebrate how elves became zerg tier in the first release of the Army Arc.

From various threads:

Dwarf: Well, mister treehugger, I suppose you want us to stop cutting down tr-
Elf Diplomat: THE BLOOD OF YOUR PEOPLE WILL STAIN THE EARTH, YOUR WOMENFOLK WILL WAIL AS WE CUT OUT THEIR EYES AND ROAST THEM, AND YOUR CHILDREN'S BLOOD WILL BE THE NECTER THAT FEEDS OUR SAPLINGS, YOU BEARDED HAMBURGER.
Dwarf: Well, we could always just limit our tree cutting quota to 125 if it bugs you tha-
Elf Diplomat: OUR ARMIES NUMBER THOUSANDS AND OUR LUST FOR BLOOD IS INSATIABLE, AND WE FIND YOUR PEOPLE VERY DELICIOUS WHEN SERVED WITH-
Dwarf: Alright, alright! 50 trees! 50 trees!
Elf Diplomat: Very well, while we may not always see eye to eye *chortle*, we can agree to this.

So, this is a utility I'd like for the current version: http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Utilities

But the download link at sendspace is shot and the two hex editor links for 33g http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Talk:Utilities#Lavasquare  http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User:Rick#v0.27.169.33g
each yield different values for upgrading to 33g. They each say "untested" but the first one is based on Rick's who changed his due to it not working earlier.

Compare
(CursorX)
FIND:      EE 57 68 88 E2 8F 00 FF 35
REPLACE:   EE 57 68 XX XX XX 0X FF 35
33g               88 62 90  0

(CursorY)
FIND:      EC 57 68 8C E2 8F 00 FF 35
REPLACE:   EC 57 68 XX XX XX 0X FF 35
33g               8C 62 90  0

(CursorZ)
FIND:      E6 57 68 90 E2 8F 00 FF 35
REPLACE:   E6 57 68 XX XX XX 0X FF 35
33g               90 62 90  0

(MapBlocks)
FIND:      FC 57 68 60 15 46 01 FF 35
REPLACE:   FC 57 68 XX XX XX 0X FF 35
33g               80 96 46  1

to

MOUSE_X=0x00906288
MOUSE_Y=0x0090628C
MOUSE_Z=0x00906290
MAP_DATA=0x01469680

I've tested both and no luck.

So I guess - help please?

First off, a great big thanks to the Tarns for the awesome game - great in it's alpha and will be absolutely incredible later.

These are a few minor things I think would be nice to see soonish (after the army arc and various bug fixes of course  )

-No interrupts from enemies many z-levels away/through stone that have no chance of attacking my dwarves/my dwarves shouldn't even be able to see.

-Ability to choose what sort of stone to use when crafting/mason like in metal forges/smelters. Current method of gathering all stone into various stockpiles or forbidding some at a time is a little bothersome.

-Ability to place multiple walls/floors at once

-ability to designate which items to adorn/decorate with bone/metal/whatever (make creation of psuedo-legendary masterful items easier) Current method is random/luck to adorn the right item unless you forbid everything else.

-Have ability to get dwarves to sleep/eat/drink before an important engagement so that they don't sleep on/leave the field of battle

-designate sections of hallways/high traffic areas as one-way only so dwarves don't slow down from smacking each other.

-Legendary champion dwarves have long names on the "u" screen which cover their current task.

-More distinction between jails and zoos; my dwarves love to hang out and party next to dangerous criminals.

-Perhaps have catapults work on multiple z-levels/do something other than clear forts of stone.

-psychologist/comedian dwarf (comedian skill?) that can walk around cheering up dwarves

Just my two cents - feel free to ignore and whatnot, because I'm sure some have been suggested before or some changes are coming soon. Thanks Toady - the dev log looks sweet and I've had more fun on this game than many other 'professional ones'.