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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: October 08, 2012, 01:52:35 pm »
 I saw a bit. It was refreshing to hear 'papa bear' say things like the invasion of Iraq was a mistake and that capitalism can be a problem in certain cases.

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: October 08, 2012, 09:52:10 am »
Well, he did do the Libertarian thing and contacted other actors to help him enforce his claim.
And apparently throwing a fit and sabotaging your own country is the hip Libertarian thing to do when things don't work out your way.  :P

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: October 08, 2012, 09:19:14 am »
Quote from: anonymous source
bay12'ers played a political strategy game together (simRepublic), where we settled as Libya. and we tried to help GreatJustice out by giving him a communally-built glass factory to run (a government grant basically). He didn't manage to construct anything by himself.

He then declared he had mandated ownership of all the sand (used for glassmaking) in Libya. sand was just random stuff lying around on the maps that anyone can pick up.  when other people collected and used the sand themselves ("it's a free world dude"),  he threw a royal hissy-fit and proceeded to sabotage everyone else's work, and conspired with the governments of countries hostile to Bay12's Libya.

Funny how people's "deeply felt" ideologies suddenly collapse in these sort of simulations. I would've thought that a "libertarian" would have accepted that if a declared property right could not be enforced, it didn't exist.
Nice example of 'socialism' on the glass there buddy.

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: October 08, 2012, 09:14:23 am »

I like how you have not posted a single link, source, reference, and have literally paid not one iota of attention to my argument.  You haven't even linked to the WHO report you claim "proves me wrong" (though it has not a single connection to any of my arguments so far).
This also deserves it's own reply:

Quote from: Wiki
Singapore was ranked 6th in the World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems in the year 2000.[1]
Singapore has a non-modified universal healthcare system where the government ensures affordability of healthcare within the public health system, largely through a system of compulsory savings, subsidies and price controls.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Singapore
EDIT- part of this posted earlier ^^^

They force you to set aside a large portion of your wages for retirement and future healthcare needs.

One of the most socalised and regulated countries in the world, ranked 6th in healthcare by WHO.

So let's look at the other winners...

1: France = extremely socialist (one of universal health care largely financed by government national health insurance. In its 2000 assessment of world health care systems, the World Health Organization found that France provided the "close to best overall health care" in the world.[1])

2: Italy = 75% socalised Healthcare is provided to all citizens and residents by a mixed public-private system.

3: San Marino = highly socalist San Marino has a high standard of compulsory, state-funded healthcare and medical staff are highly qualified

4: Andorra = extremely socialist Healthcare in Andorra is provided to all employed persons and their families by the government-run social security system, CASS (Caixa Andorrana de Seguretat Social), which is funded by employer and employee contributions in respect of salaries.[47] The cost of healthcare is covered by CASS at rates of 75% for out-patient expenses such as medicines and hospital visits, 90% for hospitalisation, and 100% for work-related accidents. The remainder of the costs may be covered by private health insurance. Other residents and tourists require full private health insurance

5: Malta = Free healthcare socialism Malta has a long history of providing publicly funded health care. The first hospital recorded in the country was already functioning by 1372.[119] Today, Malta has both a public healthcare system, known as the government healthcare service, where healthcare is free at the point of delivery, and a private healthcare system.

Are you starting to notice a pattern about how successful socalised healthcare is?

Source: http://www.who.int/whr/2000/en/whr00_en.pdf
The World Health Organisation: The World Health Report (last ranked year 2000)


Note: this was in response to your statement in the Progressive thread about socialised and European health care not being effective. It is.
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Also, someone PMed me about your 'Libertarian' exploits in Simrepublic.

Truly a relevant topic worth expansion upon in the American Election Megathread
It proves that you are either a troll or have no idea what you are doing.

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The community has been in an uproar over the last few games of S2. It's like one giant team fight clusterfuck between riot and crowd.

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Update to come soon, but I have to type up everything on my phone, which is irksome.

However, in reference to the thread title, I remember thinking this while dosing and giggling like a schoolgirl.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 08, 2012, 01:35:22 am »
I'll be professor Buzzkillington and point out that acid doesn't do a lot of that. It merely enhances your reality, it doesn't make you trip like that. DMT on the other hand...

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: October 08, 2012, 12:11:42 am »
I'm bored.

You being bored makes me sad :P

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: October 07, 2012, 09:18:42 pm »
He just cited the castlecoalition as his source on eminent domain in the same post as telling me that the World Health Organisation is biased. He's either completely devoid of the irony or something else I won't say.

Now I'm not saying that he's not sound in the head or brainwashed, salmongod, but his arguments would have more weight if they weren't slippery, irrelevant, and constantly contradicting each other.

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: October 07, 2012, 09:07:13 pm »
I like how greatjustice first cherry picks information from the WHO report to back up his flawed argument and then argues that the WHO is a biased entity. Health care in more socialised countries are ranked higher than the USA. FACT. Okay then, just who do you suggest is better versed in world health than the World Health Organisation?

And lastly, you pull up the socialism version of godwining by bringing up flawed communism in the USSR. I might as well bash democracy because the Democratic People's Republic of Korea has democracy in their name.

Also, someone PMed me about your 'Libertarian' exploits in Simrepublic.

All in all, I'd like to thank you for clearing up the confusion of whether you were a troll or not. I will be ignoring your future posts and will invite others to do the same.

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Good to see you a bit more active again, by the way. Are you gonna stay around for a while, or is it just the Thai rain period making you bored?

Disclaimer: I have no idea when in the year the rain season actually is.
It is the rainy season, and has been thunderstorming every day. I'm spending time with relatives and have a bit of downtime. I noticed that even though I was pretty active in vector's thread, I never really posted in this one. So here I am.

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It's funny because as I posted earlier in the thread, Europe has the top countries ranked by the World Health Organisation in health care.

And they're all '' socialist''.

EDIT: yes I'm quoting myself from the other thread. Deal with it.
 
Pretty sure greatjustice is a troll. He never did respond to all my facts on socialism in Singapore (since I was there) and how WHO rated a bunch of socialist countries with best health care in the world.

When presented with facts he either runs or threadshits a bunch of irrelevant or false information.

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I have a friend who is a doctor who fled the USA because rates to stay insured against malpractice were sky high.

See? Anecdotal evidence with no sources is fun!

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: October 07, 2012, 08:09:00 am »
Pretty sure greatjustice is a troll. He never did respond to all my facts on socialism in Singapore (since I was there) and how WHO rated a bunch of socialist countries with best health care in the world.

When presented with facts he either runs or threadshits a bunch of irrelevant or false information.

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