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I've seen quite a few posts in this topic about making a new topic just for the bettermember server.

as requested, I created a thread at : http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=171469.0

Thank all of you for your support here.

Quote from: Whivy on July 18, 2018, 03:05:40 am

I noticed you lowered the instant expansion limit from 500mē to 100mē. Too harsh if you ask me. 500 was indeed too high, but i think 200 would have been a good compromise. 100 is reached quickly, even at start-up stage, and then, expanding my farm market from 100 to 110 cost me 15h of time. Way too much.

100 is fine for industry as it is.

100 if fine for mamarket as long as the marketing bonus gets fixed.

however, time to expansion needs to be reduced (around 10min/m^2 base price) and until quests are enabled the expansion should cost money instead of influence (around 100k$/m^2)

I heard you guys and agree completely.  Expansion times have been reduced.  Prices remain the same. 

I'm working on quests little by little,  looks like a re-write.  Could be a little while.

Also Support EoS at the bottom of the screen can be clicked on once per day as a daily log-in currently day 4 and day 7 are the only ways to get influence until quests are running.

I've noticed that you can't sell water or filtered water for more than twice the wholesale value.  Presumably, this limit is on every product.

I think this is a bad idea.  Demand for water is high.  If you have a product that is in demand to sell, you should be able to get what the market is willing to pay for it.  That's how capitalism works.

Price caps discourage people from creating surpluses to sell, since they might not be able to get a decent price.  Price caps will tend to make the game even more about ignoring the B2B and more about creating your own supplies.

Also, I wonder if this price cap takes into account the formula (basevalue * (1 + (Q/50))).  If a product's value after quality is taken into account is way, way higher than what we're allowed to sell it for, people will not bother.

This cap is to prevent people from buying up all the electric and water and selling it at 7.00 per unit which happened to be the case in the old capitalism game.  It creates the same problem.  Which is also the addition to Wind and Solar power on my server.  To create an almost free reliable energy for starting players and help battle this capitalistic need to destroy a server.  It also helps prevent people from creating multiple accounts selling low from one and back high in an effort to transfer money from one account to another.

To an extent I agree with you as well Zaz, I thought the cap would be harmful as well.  So I wrote in an extra little script on the R&D side of it where the cap is attached to the quality.

example
I can sell 1 filtered water with a zero quality 26 cents (max).
I can sell 1 filtered water with a quality of 25 at 32 cents (max).

This is to encourage R&D and quality growth as well.  Good point though, it's something that I struggled with on the decision as well. 
Thanks ZaZ

In case anyone else has the problem I had (and probably what Caz is having):
The First Post is for a completely different website, and is essentially defunct.
The current activity is for the version being hosted on http://capitalism.bettermember.net/eos/index.php

Honestly, from the time the continuation(?) was made public, it should've started it's own thread.

Oh yeah, mine is on the bettermember server.  Excellent point n9103, I never even gave that a thought.  The registration for the actual capitalism went down in December for some reason or another.  That's what prompted me to start coding it for my server.  I kept going back to it from time to time.  I like the concept and I didn't have the opportunity to play it when it was popular and cared for.

I couldn't make an account on this. The form seemed bugged and wouldn't send.

A few other people from this forum was able to create accounts.  Has anyone else had this problem?

What Operating system are you using?  What internet browser do you use?

Seing that you have the code and the visuals, wouldn't it be easier to just migrate everything to a newer framework like Symfony ? I can only guess how tedious it must be to fix or add feature in an old bad written code (quoting the original author).

By the way, marketing power doesn't seem to work. The button to validate the spending doesn't do anything.

I like tedious. LoL.  There are some things that PHP applications used to manipulate PHP code that wouldn't write it the way I would.

Great that it was resurrected! Thanks BetterMember.

Wow, with current level of starting economy, supermarkets demand and the fact that everyone gets stuff lower in production chains, it's really hard to sell anything in them. Gas stations selling only filtered water is never going to cover it's own maintenance cost, it wouldn't even at 100% efficiency and Q50. And I'm not even starting to talk about production costs. Good that people are still trying to make it work and water/energy gets sold at B2B.

edit: If you are not planning any payments, it would be better for the game to make your repo public. There is always some PR worth merging.

Yes, in the process of resurrecting...  Still much work to be done.  The conversations here and those of you contacting me about ideas is a lot of help.

No financials for the game planned yet, just a little side project that I decided to take on.