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Alright, HARDCORE mod v0.1 is up. http://rs73.rapidshare.com/files/89236608/objects.zip

- Dogs and cats more expensive
- There is no cheap meat. Minimum cost = 6.
- Many wild animals made more dangerous
- Added a reaver creature, a blind spider that views Dwarves as vermin (thanks, gurra!)
- Making iron and steel takes more charcoal
- Dwarven weapons and armor generally less effective
- Crossbow damage significantly nerfed
- Plump helmets not edible raw
- Growth periods for all subterrenean plants extended significantly, and grow seasons restricted
- Dwarven traps nerfed
- Some ores don't yield as much as they used to
- Smelting alloys from ores disallowed. Bars only.

I couldn't find a way of disallowing cheap and easy stone and wood crafting, so if you want to take the true HARDCORE CHALLENGE, you never sell stone or wood crafts.

I'm still looking to add monsters, and make lots of adjustments based on playtest feedback.

Gurra,

Thanks! That's really useful information for my creature and monster tweaks. I'm definitely wanting to have a lot of different ways in which the fortress is often beset by a range of problems, both large and small.

I did some work over the weekend toward making a "hardcore" mod that presents a higher challenge level than the base game. Elements I'd like to address:
1) Complicate farming by making growth times longer, restrict growing periods, and  reduce raw consumption.
2) Make meat more expensive so initial loadups and caravan purchases are costlier
3) Add more evil races and marauding monsters
4) Make metalbashing more complicated by reducing smelting outputs and increasing carbon requirements
5) Sharply reduce the amount of trade value a crafter can trivially produce by churning through cheap rock and wood crafts.
6) Increase the cost of highly valuable pets, particularly dogs

I've already accomplished 1,2,4, and 6
#3 will be easy, particularly because I've got a large number of pre-existing mods to draw from
I think #5 is currently impossible to accomplish through modding

So, I'm open to knowledgable modders giving me some advice on #5, and experienced DF players' opinion as to what else can be done to complicate things and reduce the effectiveness of common easy strategies and exploits.

Version 0.1 is posted! http://rs73.rapidshare.com/files/89236608/objects.zip

[ February 04, 2008: Message edited by: Krom ]

Oooooh, the anticipation!

I'd love to succession it with you!

8Felsite54

The encounter with the cave swallow proves it. With Tegirnazush in my hand, I am invincible. Unfortunately, the monster killed 3 lesser ones before I could stop it. While Surath will undoubtably erect a statue to commemorate this event, I think I've reached the point where I deserve a special place for quiet reflection.

I'd like a statue garden, with onyx or maybe even a gold statue. But most important is mist. I'd like mist to come wafting through my status garden. Others will be allowed to use it, but it will be mine. I think I've earned it.

[OOC: No way! Are you really building a 10-story tall glass frog structure??]

10Sand52

Still no pet goat from the traders. Maybe the elves will come through for me, like they did with my nifty flute. I've been practicing now and again, and hope to have some songs to play next time someone throws a party. Seems like parties don't happen here nearly as often as back home.

I was thinking about maybe taking a break from stonecrafting for a little while. Maybe cooking? We could sure use it. Maybe I could spend half my time seeing if I could improve the menu around here. I'll talk to Surath.

We now have a Sherriff and 5 "soldiers" to protect us from the deadly threat of eagle attack. Seems entirely foolish. And most of the others don't actually seem to do much of anything. Mostly just moving stuff around. We should ask some of the less useful ones to leave. Go back home. But nicely.

1Granite52

The outpost is humming along nicely. We've got large stockpiles of barrels filled with wonderful beverages and all assortment of meats! Some of which I'd never even heard of before! Still no cook, so we have to make do. I had some raw fish the other day, which was quite nasty. Seems cruel to force dwarves to eat that sort of thing.

Crafting is going great. I'm staying very busy, and getting better at it all the time. Get this: they tell me the marble is off-limits. Something about making steel. Whatever, I've got the artistic freedom to make whatever I choose, so I'm happy.

Surath went over her books with us today. How much we've already made, broken down by category, that sort of thing. We're doing really well, and she thinks we'll do even better in the next year. Sounds like I'll soon be rich!

Now I just have to decide how much longer to do this until I decide to cash out and go home. Surath ran through a lot of big figures, and I think my share of that would set me up nicely for a triumphant return home. Bail out dad, get myself a modest room.

I'll have to talk to Surath next chance I get about when she thinks I should cash in my share. Exciting!

[Originally crossposted with Dame]

[ January 26, 2008: Message edited by: Krom ]