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"Listen well, young Urist! Mighty Armok demands payment for the gifts he grants us. By the toil of our miners we are granted metal ores, and by the toil of our metalsmiths we are granted armor, weapons and *Platinum Statue*s. But there is one gift so great that we must pay an even greater price..."

Legolord, please refrain from making personal attacks.

And then please look up the word "consequences", as in for the choices the player makes.

My point, if you'll bother to read what I said, ever, is that undoing the work of the gods themselves might have bad, "screw you over" consequences, exactly because you're going against the gods. Which would seem to be a more serious than normal action.

If you willingly choose to lead your dwarfs into what for them is blasphemy, then maybe the result won't always be a bunch of super treasure and good LULZ. Maybe there will be some real actual risk for the player, to go along with the reward.

And for that matter, maybe those risks can be mitigated through actions the player can take, so that we have choices about when and how to open the HFS (and it's a spoiler, however meaningless in this thread, and I choose to maintain it as such), along with whether or not to.

Not that this is anything more than a suggestion, so why it's being treated as more than such I have no idea. I'm a badger, not a toad.

Screwing you over randomly is kind of the point. The gods have turned against you.

That means walking outside during a thunderstorm while wearing metal armour should be of greater concern than previously.

Lot of "if"s here, but...

What if the third party allowed the Wiki to be downloaded, so that it could be accessed easily offline? Boards/updates/mods aside, DF is an offline kind of game.

If it could be, then ToadyOne, if he so chose, could go on to provide whatever necessary support-code to potentially make the Wiki work in-game, without the necessity of clearing it for use, since the game and the Wiki would both still exist separately.

The 3x3 model is a good one, but I think there should be some benefit to careful selection when harvesting your trees. They should be able to grow on a single space, but only achieve full height/width when they have enough room to grow.

What if the HFS got breached and all your alchohol turned to blood, and all your food rotted, and all your iron/steel rusted, and all the trees on the map died?

people are going to have to add their two cents

Maybe something akin to the canyonlike bottomless caverns were currently get, only ones you can walk, or maybe climb, down? With paths and caves leading off from main entrances?

That way, you could readily explore X,Y,Z levels. Which makes sense in the context of the game.