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Does that look like an elf god to you?!?!

Rivers hold the Carp, which is the most fiercesome beast alive!

They also allow wounded dwarves to survive.

See, the power of life AND death. Magma only holds death and destruction. Rivers can be destructive, but they can also be beneficial too, like when they are harnessed for endless power or when they give you farmland!

You heathens, daring to befoul rivers with suggestions of fire! And mentioning the corruption of the natural order that is a magma river?!!!!

IT IS WAR!

See, I disagree. Most of the changes concentrate on legends mode and world generation. Adventure mode and Dwarf Mode appear to be equally affected, but less then world generation, which is the base for both adventure and dwarf. Either way, you change the foundation, you impact the structure.

(And in dwarf mode)

I share a lot of the 'weirdness' of other people, but I have my own too. I always get a royal dining hall built for a meeting place for my dwarves, and a royal throne room made too before I have anybody that could possibly use it.

I do the "same materials" door thing, but I do it on a large scale(Every object in the fortress is made out of the same stone, coffers, cabinets, frigging levers, as soon as I have a legendary mason it starts.)

My dwarves all start out with 2x3 rooms at least, usually bigger

I always work on replacing farms smaller then 10x10 with 10x10 farms.

And my weirdest quark of all...

Every fortress I always build at least 40 2x2 jail cells, with a fortification and a door on one wall leading into a 2 wide hallway. The fortress guard is always high-strength, never under strength, and the captain of the guard always has his rooms at the start of the jail area when the jail is completed.

It's gotten so bad that BBCA is actually one of those channels I watch now. I had nothing to do with the English for years, ever since they thought they were so cool as to draft US citizens into their naval fleets. However, the disgrace that is American broadcasting has turned me to watching the stuff that other nations make. I won't even watch news broadcasts, because I am not interested in what some American idol thing did on that show, and it seems to be a major topic of news, while the illegal detention and outright violation of acceptable humane practices of prisoners caught in open conflict appears to be nothing more then 'an old hat' and not worth even a modicum of time.

Yes, I'd rather watch the horribly shot "Torchwood" over "Big Brother (Insert Number Here) any day. Of course I don't really watch Torchwood either, Though I did watch that Robin Hood show for a bit... And then I got bored of British Television. Just the same, I still would rather watch whatever might be on that then the "Reality TV" dross that is American television.

Jerry Springer is a symptom of what is truly wrong with America. We are so accepting and open, we would happily bring high ratings to a show that encourages people different from the norm to fight on national TV.

Dwarf Mode isn't getting hosed, it's getting boosted too. Might I remind everyone of this:

#  stopped placing container in one of its contained containers from locking up the game
# made constructions remove engravings, debris and other objects from their square on placement
# stopped aerial births
# stopped blood from hanging in the air
# made snow-covered dyer's workshop in different construction states distinguishable
# fixed some inconsistencies with child name capitalization
# allowed dwarves to dig up from ramps provided a ramp wall is in place
# stopped "large " items with blank names from appearing (one instance of it anyway)
# stopped channeled walls above constructions from leaving rocks inside the construction
# made unconscious diplomats/traders trigger traps
# stopped smoothing under roads
# stopped snow from being generated at the bottom of the ocean
# fixed problem with world map display size on chargen/embark
# made rain/snow shift locations with rest of objects on map shift
# made forbidden/on fire state of items respected in a few extra places
# made children grow up anyway if they somehow miss their exact coming of age date
# changed how diplomacy states are stored
# gave immigrant woodcutters proper soldier settings
# allowed undead/invaders to fight
# smoothed out local landscapes
#  made digging out ramp walls update connectivity properly
# gave work dogs and cats names upon adoption
# displayed number of assigned hunting/war beasts during assignment
# fixed up problems with continued designation job selection
# stopped constructions and frozen liquids from floating at the bottom of the chasm
# stopped construction removal from leaving open spaces in ice
# stopped ocean waves from pushing merchant and horses free from wagons
# made carving a fortification unhide adjacent squares
# made freed tombs respect no pet init options
# made pregnancies count toward the baby cap
# made heat/cold damage effects for items work faster
# stopped dungeon master from constantly putting on cloaks
# stopped dwarves continuing training if the building becomes forbidden
# allowed wagons to go through ashes
# stopped debris on the ground from coloring flashing ramps
# allowed viewing of kills in ... dwf mode ...
# made megabeasts, semimegabeasts and underground feature creatures take on the undead character of their region
# fixed crash from having no items available to bring to the depot
# fixed problem with slaughter job spamming over inaccessible creatures
# improved accessibility checks for various jobs
# fixed problem with the king coming early and not actually showing up
# fixed problem with wagons not unloading at the depot if you have more than one
# made smoothed walls display correctly when designated for dig
# stopped selected embark area from changing when civ is changed
# placed silk cloth in the correct item category during embark
# fixed problem with blank thoughts from old caves
# stopped item names from spilling under point values in embark item list
# made cage occupant list scroll before reaching instructions
# fixed a problem that would allow continued designation jobs to mess with other designations
# stopped export restriction mandates from being violated by trader goods (no dwarves were punished, but noble becomes upset by this)
# made soldiers lose inappropriate jobs like training when their squad is put on duty
# stopped journey friendships from influencing leadership selection on embark
# handled an issue with job persistence when a dwarf joins the guard
# added some additional checks for well completion for well jobs
# fixed item contaminant adjective spacing and duplicates
# fixed crash bug related to rain destroying webs in evil forests
# fixed problem causing low baby caps to affect population cap

That also doesn't include the things like wars, roads, territories, and eras, which will influence site selection at least for me, and probably for everyone else too.

The biggest things might be historical, but there is still a large list of things that aren't. And the historical will influence how people play, as the "adjacent civilizations" will be adjacent now, and their territory obvious and visible with histories of warfare establishing them. I suspect we might even start at war with things like elves and humans based on historical actions.

*gets two hammerstrikes for an unfulfilled mandate*

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Ouch! I am a legendary Engraver, not a legendary   crafter!!!!
Darn you all to heck!

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