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You know, I'm starting to think Molyneux has a very special purpose in gaming.  He keeps us reaching for the sky.  He promises something that sounds amazing and impossible...five years later, he delivers something that doesn't live up to the promises...but there's always a few people who aren't disillusioned, and when they play Fable, instead say "You know, we actually have the tech to do that now, maybe I should do this right".

He's just a sci-fi writer who sometimes inspires other things that don't suck.  Keep us dreaming, good man.

Its one thing to be ambitious and fail short, and another to be ambitious and then flat-out lie about what you have actually accomplished in some sort of weird ego trip. I have lots of admiration for those that try the hard or "impossible" things, but he betrayed all the goodwill I had a long time ago. As other have said, I'll believe it when I see it.

There's always Heroes of might and magic V. There is a necromancer race and a demon race among others. Older titles of the serie also have those races I believe.

Wrong, the painting is unique, games are not they are considered individual copies even if they only exist in digital form.

It's their product... You know... What you are trying to say is that 5 star restaurants charging 15 grand for a dinner is illegal. It's their product. You're not forced to buy it.

Now if every restaurant did that, you might have an issue.

Give examples of it being applied to non-essential things because honestly, I think you're wrong about it.

Valve distribute games from other companies through their service, and they are only available through that service because of the DRM. So in short many different company use a single service that is required to use their product. That's a monopoly. I think. Don't hurt me if i'm wrong.

Remember Microsoft Windows, they got a lawsuit for monopoly in europe recently with many millions in damage.

And after rereading it the anti-gouging law might not be applicable after all, sorry to bring it up :/

Uh... Because people are free to charge whatever they want? You're not forced to buy from them, you know. You can buy a cheaper boxed copy in a store then register it with steam.

Well the US Antitrust law have many clauses that apply for this kind of behavior, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging

I have no idea if the EU has something similar.

Cardinal sin time.  Forgive me oh lords, for my chest need unburdening.

So four months is the new nebulous everyone-nods-in-agreement time frame?  The last update was September 6, 2008.  If this last stretch of squads, sites, and finalization takes more that three months and a week, that would make an entire year between releases.

This development arc includes descriptive paragraphs, a vastly improved material and body system and damage thereof, an overhauled and expanded stat and skill system, a restructuring of squads and governance, an industrial scale healthcare system, and a slew of new map features.  Each of those bullet points is awesome, but none of them are directly dependent on each others' implementation.  Each could have been released in turn.

Now, I'm not threatening to stop playing or anything.  I'm not going anywhere, and as soon I pay some bills I'll be donating again.  But I'm a die-hard fan.  An entire year between 'updates' is getting silly, because a lot of people are just going to stop paying attention or caring.  I say again, screw save compatibility or whatever the need for bundling so much work into distinct releases, and let us play with it.

There are some pretty good reason appart from save compatibility for not releasing each new feature as an update. Creating a stable and (more or less) balanced release for every separate feature would take a LOT of work on Toady part. Right now he can just add features to the mess and then balance them all together at the end of the long developpement cycle without worrying about alienating players with broken/buggy features. Small incremental update would make sense with a proper team, but Toady work alone on this, he cannot let someone else take care of release and maintenance while he work on the new stuff.

I imagine getting sidetracked all the time by bug fixing, balancing and other things would make adding new feature even slower than it is now.

I remain skeptical about a game dumbed down enough to be played by a parrot.

I take it you never worked in marketing 

It did and the server didnt save data apparently, we lost our 2 shiny new picks better luck next time i guess.

 just checked, and we can pretty much build everything in the mining shaft, even houses and stuff. Maybe we should claim a shaft as our home :p with some creative mining we can even make some rooms. I do not expect that we will be able to do this for very long until it is patched.