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Pardon if this has been suggested, but I looked and cannot find it.

I find this discussion on whether or not the thing has been suggested before to be totally unnecessary and completely redundant.  I searched.  I even read all of the options on the permanent voting software.  Nothing.  That's why this thread exists.  End of discussion please, thank you very much.

On the subject of gates, they could easily be put in as a building (like floor bars or gem windows in that respect) or, perhaps less easily, as a piece of furniture (like doors).

Most importantly, Wagon pathing would need to ignore them for this to work.  Regardless of whether or not they are closed.  If a wagon cannot CURRENTLY go through a gate, they will patiently wait outside until the gate opens.  Or, optionally, wagons and friendlies can ALWAYS go through a gate, and invaders must break it down in order to pass.

Each gate might serve as a station for two Fortress Guards.  That's enough to help out with any altercations at the gate without being a military force.  To prevent abuse of this, a gate must be stationed adjacent to a wall.

The reasoning is thus:

A: Friendly dwarves do not trigger traps.
B: Unconscious dwarves do trigger traps.

Conclusion 1: Unconscious state overrides trap avoidance.

Given A + B leads to conclusion 1, examine A + C.

C: Webbed dwarves do trigger traps.

Pardon if this has been suggested, but I looked and cannot find it.

I would like to see the invention of a new building, or perhaps furniture: the gate.

It must be wide enough to allow a wagon to pass.  It might need a metal bar and three building materials to be built, and should not block wagons unless forbidden.

A gate could also function as a task for the useless Fortress Guards.  They could guard gates much like Royal Guards guard nobles.  This would have two game effects:

1) Fortress design is much easier, because one may easily create an entry point for wagons that can be controlled.
2) Fortress guards are not so useless, but cannot be commanded like military and thus will not replace the military.

CF has nearly all the important changes that DD has.  It has differing marble types, it has mithril (a metal between steel and adamantium), it has a new magma-proof rock found in igneous areas, it has new meal names, creatures (some of which are trainable and tameable), new gems...

DD has new craft names that CF doesn't have, I think it alters the plants more, and I'm fairly certain CF has neither orcs nor pizza.  And DD probably has more new wood names.

EDIT: Oh I forgot!  DD does have lots of surface plants CF doesn't have.  I forgot those because I deleted almost all of them when I played DD.

It does not, however, protect against long corridors full of manually operated spikes.

My name is Lyrax, and I approve of this mod!

Everyone has waited a long time for his/her fight... that's why it seems so nasty to get eliminated after just one fight.  And who knows?  A dwarf who loses might improve more quickly than the winners, and win the tournament!