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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« on: October 22, 2022, 01:19:28 am »
1) No attack on my word choice of "dislike" over "distrust"? You're slipping, Toonyman.
Are you implying you think I'm town, but don't like me? Because your later statements here go against that.

2) No comment on whether or not the survival of TolyK is necessary for your ability to be used? Instead, you state what should be obvious from your point of view.
...No, TolyK doesn't need to be alive for me to use their ability as far as I'm aware.

3) NO, this statement by you is patently false and poor reasoning.  My argument is: In a past game, scum!Toonyman gave an item (a bulletproof vest), to town!Jack and this endeared town!Jack to scum!Toonyman, leading to a town read.  That town read meant town!Jack gave scum!Toony access to a neighbor chat, with which scum!toony manipulated town!Jack & town!Max into losing the game.  How curious that YOU should know that, and that the only other player who was so heavily involved in that neighbor chat should be dead, hm?
First, you're correct. There's nothing proving TolyK isn't hoodwinking me. Jim however is not unless Tric's town inspect is false in some way. My impression of TolyK is that they're third-party at worst but it is possible they're mafia who gave me a very strong ability for some reason. Do I believe that? No. Also, it's an even better item than a bulletproof vest and the dual nature of it would mean it would benefit mafia just as heavily (as mafia giving themselves bulletproof vests isn't usually that great, that's one of the reasons I didn't care about giving you one in that game).

Second, you're accusing me of being mafia and killing Max to keep this public knowledge hidden. I don't have any comments about that. I didn't kill Max and I'm not involved with their death. Why are you implying you trust (but dislike) me in the first part of this post, but then jab at me with suspicion here?

*) Additionally, scum!UselessMcMiner in Totem Mafia 3 pulled a trick where he claimed to have sent scum!Toony a message.  Scum!Toony decided his odds were winning were higher if he claimed to NOT get the message. So the whole TolyK-Toony "really good action" could be long con.
This was a miscommunication where my scum partner UselessMcMiner wanted to do that role-claim, but I had already claimed that nothing happened with me last night. I couldn't go back on what I said, so I decided to say I didn't receive anything from them. Roden and others were able to spot how strange and unnatural this exchange was between us, because it was strange and unnatural.

I'm not in secret communications with anybody in this game. Look at the interactions between TolyK and myself, this will prove that. You won't find any unnatural interactions with me because I'm not scum.

How are you going to dig your way out of the shit Jack?

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« on: October 21, 2022, 06:55:09 pm »
In response to having his throat cut, NJW2000 puts on a pair of sunglasses.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« on: October 21, 2022, 06:17:15 pm »
@NQT:
I understand your reasoning, but I think you're wrong.

NJW should get a chance to respond at least before your final judgment.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« on: October 21, 2022, 06:08:39 pm »
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Arr, fine information, Jack. So tell me about TolyK: the bottomfeeding blighter has been lurking, aye... what do you think about Toony's argument that the power he was given was very pro-town? Is that in any way compelling? I think it's a mild reason in favour giving TolyK another day.

But if I be honest, the reasons are small fish. There's a surfeit of traitors and only one plank.

Three things:
One, this requires me to believe Toony, whom I eminently dislike.
Two, apparently the gift has been given, so TolyK's survival doesn't influence Toony's ability to use TolyK's gift.
Three, this sounds like blatant bribery.  So apparently, both Jim & TolyK can give Toony stuff, and that means they're both town?  Toony did the same bullshit to get a radio from me in a previous Fallacy Game, then used that communication channel with Max & Me to manipulate us into throwing the game.  It was the last of Fallacy's Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3, Round 5. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post to the discord.

1. Eminency received.
2. I don't believe TolyK is mafia so yes, their continued survival is in my current interests.
3. Your argument would mean I'm mafia, not Jim and TolyK.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« on: October 21, 2022, 06:03:34 pm »
NQT you dastardly rogue!

Don't hammer anyone prematurely I still need to decide on my day action.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Awakening To Darker Tides
« on: October 21, 2022, 04:33:18 pm »
NJW and TolyK are terrible lynches.
What, did NJW give you bribe money too?
NJW gave me the best gift of all.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Awakening To Darker Tides
« on: October 21, 2022, 04:21:08 pm »
Uh...seven required to hammer, I was thinking of Day 1.

The main point is your post content/behavior anyway.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Awakening To Darker Tides
« on: October 21, 2022, 04:19:26 pm »
And now the panic of almost dying is fading, TolyK still hasn't answered.
And now the panic of almost dying is fading
panic

Jack "panicking":

@Fallacy: Is there a dead chat?
Yes.
Best news all day. I can die happy now.
Reads List:
[blah blah blah]

Now I'm going to watch Young Sheldon.
Also, fuck you, this isn't funny.

There's amusing yourself with innocuous bullshit like repeatedly posting DRAGON DEEZ NUTZ to literally no one else's amusement, and then there's misleading and frustrating the good faith efforts of multiple players without good cause.
Wow, this statement is completely wrong in every way. Town points to Jim.
Also: DRAGON DEEZ NUTZ.

Vote count while Jack was "panicking":

Vote Count
------------------------
-> EuchreJack  --4-- ToonyMan*, Jim Groovester*, notquitethere*, TricMagic*
Four votes, eight required to hammer.

You're full of shit.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Awakening To Darker Tides
« on: October 21, 2022, 04:11:38 pm »
NJW and TolyK are terrible lynches.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Awakening To Darker Tides
« on: October 21, 2022, 03:51:18 pm »
@Jack:
Can you explain yourself here?
Also, I tend to Suspect Web, since the most likely reason I'm soaked is because Web just lied about his targets, excluding me.
webadict: I can see Web soaking me, not telling anyone, then waiting until a wagon builds on me just to see the results.  All as town!web. I could see town!web even sacrificing me to the wagon for info.  Thanks Web.
This doesn't make any sense. You suspect Web and then immediately townread them for the same reasons.

@Tric:
Question, how did KW get his double votes?
Knightwing's second target died (Max) so they claim to get a second vote from it.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Awakening To Darker Tides
« on: October 21, 2022, 03:19:23 pm »

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Awakening To Darker Tides
« on: October 21, 2022, 03:03:16 pm »
2) Both TolyK and Jim has claimed to give Toony really good stuff that the rest of us should just believe on faith. Not sure if it's worse if true or false.
Tric has claimed that Jim targeted me last night, just me.

You're right that TolyK's gift (more like an exchange...) is only known between myself and them.

Nakeen, allegedly delayed Toony... but why, as far as I could see there was no reason given, and indeed Nakeen never voted Toony or expressed any earlier suspicions. It be an odd target for a powerful ability like that, savvy?
Nakeen gives further reasoning on D2 here.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Awakening To Darker Tides
« on: October 21, 2022, 12:35:01 pm »
Finally, vote ToonyMan since I'm starting to get concerned over the massive amount of power that Toonyman seems to be accumulating.

1) Double-voter Knightwing traditionally sheeps Toonyman.
2) Both TolyK and Jim has claimed to give Toony really good stuff that the rest of us should just believe on faith. Not sure if it's worse if true or false.
3) NJW2000 and his double vote are likely to defer to Toonyman for taking his side in the Great NJW2000/Webadict War of Day 2.

And possibly other stuff that I don't have time to break down.  I REALLY have to get back to work.
Power!! Unlimited Pooower!!!

With great power comes more power.

I'm pretty sure my support crumbles if we don't hit any mafia.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Awakening To Darker Tides
« on: October 21, 2022, 12:25:17 pm »
That doesn't actually clear them given double actions. They could have hit someone you soaked.

EuchreJack then.
That's pretty dumb.  I know exactly who I targeted, so why wouldn't EuchreJack.  That also means that Euchre didn't do the kill because Max wasn't Soaked.
Yes, but you Soaked Jack yourself correct? Why couldn't Jack kill Max?

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Awakening To Darker Tides
« on: October 21, 2022, 12:24:00 pm »
Tric not reading: FoU has confirmed Max would have shown up as Soaked if they were even if dead.

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