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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 02:57:11 pm »
Quote from: Lenglon on September 27, 2022, 02:32:22 pm
I am hoping they will mafiakill me before we reach MYLO/LYLO.
They won't.

Quote from: hector13 on September 27, 2022, 02:50:13 pm
Didn’t you say earlier that your presence doesn’t count toward the Good wincon? Why would scum want you out of the game, via elimination or NK, if that’s the case?
They won't.

It's the same reason why they won't kill Tric if he comes back. Even if he comes back town he's perfect mislynch fodder.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 02:18:36 pm »
Quote from: hector13 on September 27, 2022, 02:12:39 pm
If SKs aren’t Evil, wouldn’t that mean town could win with SKs alive?

That would be weird.
I had this same conundrum earlier which is why I was asking Web how Evil decides ties. He was very unhelpful.

If it's not an Evil SK then it's a separate Evil force, but either way there has to be split Evil forces or else Persus wouldn't have died. SKs can't be Neutral because then Good could win with them.

Otherwise:
1. Persus killed himself - this is dumb without some huge payoff
2. A Neutral player working for Evil killed an Evil by accident - this is hilarious but why give a mally a kill? Seems OP

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 02:12:58 pm »
Quote from: Lenglon on September 27, 2022, 02:05:28 pm
Quote from: notquitethere on September 27, 2022, 01:59:27 pm
I'm seriously curious what the hell Lenglon thought they read.
The Good wincon says nothing about SKs. I saw a straight scumslip.
I don't think it was a scumslip but I wasn't going to pass on giving NQT a heart attack. Maybe that's mean given their circumstances. Either way, he's not caught scum since we can assume the Evil have the Good wincon word for word thanks to you telling us non-Good players have access to it...wait a second.

For the record, any townread I had of Jack that relates to Good=Green is incorrect. Evil!Jack would have that information.

I need to update my reads for D2 as well.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 02:06:05 pm »
Quote from: notquitethere on September 27, 2022, 01:59:27 pm
I'm seriously curious what the hell Lenglon thought they read.
The way you phrased it the first time read like your wincon was to defeat mafia and SKs, but I could tell you were just trying to say that secondary mafia teams and SKs would be under Evil as well.

I believe Lenglon's earnest "we gotcha now!!" by interpreting your sentence as a scumslip strikes me as genuine.

I think Lenglon is very clearly Neutral at this point. Webadict has mentioned Good, Neutral, and Evil as our three alignments. And we know Lenglon has claimed not Evil, but also isn't Good.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 01:58:29 pm »
Quote from: Lenglon on September 27, 2022, 01:50:16 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 27, 2022, 01:46:16 pm
Quote from: Lenglon on September 27, 2022, 01:19:22 pm
Toony, if we lynch NQT and he flips scum, would you still need to shoot Tric?
I would, yes.

Quote from: Lenglon on September 27, 2022, 01:31:26 pm
NQT: Yes, I do know that revives have gone poorly. I know it has happened repeatedly. In fact, hasn't it happened without fail every single time?
I was a town priest in a past game and brought Zombie Urist back successfully as town, so it can definitely work. From rereading that game the scum tried to argue ZU was bad but I defended ZU pretty hard and ended up being right.
Toony, this doesn't seem consistent. Please explain.
I wanted to point out the only time I remember it going well. Every other game I was in I don't recall it ever working in town's favor.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 01:54:42 pm »
I mean Lenglon already told us they were told the Good wincon even though they're not Good. I was just curious how you'd react.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 01:51:17 pm »
Want to elaborate on that Good wincon again NQT?

Nobody else explain it.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 01:46:16 pm »
Quote from: Lenglon on September 27, 2022, 01:19:22 pm
Toony, if we lynch NQT and he flips scum, would you still need to shoot Tric?
I would, yes.

Quote from: Lenglon on September 27, 2022, 01:31:26 pm
NQT: Yes, I do know that revives have gone poorly. I know it has happened repeatedly. In fact, hasn't it happened without fail every single time?
I was a town priest in a past game and brought Zombie Urist back successfully as town, so it can definitely work. From rereading that game the scum tried to argue ZU was bad but I defended ZU pretty hard and ended up being right.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 01:09:19 pm »
Quote from: Lenglon on September 27, 2022, 12:43:19 pm
also Toony, I had intended to jailkeep NQT tonight if they were alive, so I think we need to establish right now if I should be doing that or not. I can rotate to an alternate suspicious individual easily enough so that I don't block your shot.
That's true. Try to jailkeep NQT then.

I intend to shoot Tric if they come back tonight, but I'll figure out what to do otherwise.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 12:26:41 pm »
Quote from: Knightwing64 on September 27, 2022, 12:23:42 pm
Says the one who also has a monastery ability and claims town, but whatever. That’s "totally different”

Somebody convert me to evil

I can’t stand this anymore
Die and let Egan res you. There's a good chance you will be.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 12:24:45 pm »
Quote from: Lenglon on September 27, 2022, 12:17:42 pm
I dislike almost every argument NQT has made. I don't see how NQT wouldn't be scum here, and I don't see how NQT would be on the same faction as Egan, since NQT seems to be designed to counter Egan, so flipping NQT should also be a way to clear Egan, or if NQT is somehow good it would be a better reason to lynch Egan.
Spoilers: I was going to shoot NQT tonight if Tric isn't around thanks to Egan (assuming we lynch Egan and they're Good). Seriously Egan stop the resurrection it has a good chance to be terrible.

Quote from: Lenglon on September 27, 2022, 12:17:42 pm
I dislike a number of Hector's arguments, and think there's a decent chance Hector and NQT are on the same faction. So a flip of NQT would be telling here as well. If NQT flips scum then I can start looking at Hector seriously as possible scum, if NQT flips town then I'll know I probably should be looking elsewhere.
I dislike all theories saying the Perseus was an SK, because that would require Perseus be an SK without night-kill protection in a 13-player game.  Perseus was part of the Evil (mafia) faction. Perseus's killer might have been an SK, sure, but Perseus themselves? Not likely.
I like the argument that Persus was probably on the mafia team and not SK, but then you're saying Persus and Hector would be on the same team then which I disagree with.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 12:15:53 pm »
Right now my reasoning for not voting NQT is this:

Is NQT solo evil? Maybe, but it's unlikely they killed Persus.

Is NQT on a team of Evil? Maybe, but who is it with? Vector feels the most likely to me, however I know confidently that Vector didn't kill Persus either.

So I can't vote NQT in good faith here because I'm not seeing a strong possibility they're Evil beyond not claiming a monster tag, which I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt. I feel as though NQT has spent this entire game fending off massive wagons which seems odd if they have scum support unless town just completely sniped him.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 11:24:47 am »
Hey Egan if you cancel your resurrection ritual I'll vote NQT. I think it's unlikely you die at night so why not wait until D3 for now?

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 11:20:34 am »
@Egan:
NQT is voting you to save himself, why aren't you voting?

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 2: One Evil Down, More To Go [11 / 13]
« on: September 27, 2022, 11:17:19 am »
@Jim:
I don't see the problem if you think KW is Good.

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