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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 06:12:41 pm »
Quote from: 4maskwolf on September 22, 2022, 09:08:20 pm
Toony.

If Tricmagic is my wolf buddy who on earth would give me a good case on him lol.
I think my case still works on you even if Tric is town.

Quote from: 4maskwolf on September 22, 2022, 09:08:20 pm
I know Tric is the hat man because I played in that game lol. It was so memetic that literally the last game played was based on it. At the time I was rereading Supernatural 10 (which I note later to Lenglon) to try and get a read on someone else and also saw that Tric open claimed in his first post that game too (I'd remembered he'd claimed awkwardly but I didn't remember it was so damn early).
If that's true, then when I asked you about Tric, why did you say you have no thoughts about Tric at all besides he didn't fit the MU mold?

Quote from: 4maskwolf on September 22, 2022, 09:08:20 pm
My case on him was influenced by other people's firmer belief that this odd behavior was wolf-indicative.
Fair enough.

Quote from: 4maskwolf on September 22, 2022, 09:08:20 pm
Also like... I'm allowed to do research and come to a different conclusion after saying I have no opinion. I said I had no opinion because I didn't, thought on it some and did some research, and came to a conclusion in real time.
I see. You spent the next three hours between 4:46pm and 7:59pm EST reading older game threads with Tric in them.

I still find your reaction suspicious.

Quote from: 4maskwolf on September 22, 2022, 09:08:20 pm
If Tric is indeed a wolf I'm fairly happy to be eliminated D2 because I genuinely can't tell whether I'll help or harm the town if I accidentally target a wolf with my role, and I do acknowledge that the downright fucking bizarre way Tric has played around my slot seems teamed, but I have literally no idea what Tric was doing. I'd argue that if I was wolfing with Tric, that little stunt of copying my starting post like that would have annoyed me enough that I'd remember it and wouldn't have to be reminded of it by Tric himself, but YMMV.
Hmmm. You genuinely don't remember Tric copying your opening post, but when Tric reminds you about yeet you do?

I really don't want to believe you here.

You say this:
Quote from: 4maskwolf on September 21, 2022, 03:47:33 pm
The only thing that comes to mind is I feel like I’d have remembered at least one of his posts by now, but I haven’t.
And I just can't believe you wouldn't remember a player copying your first post. I'm pretty sure I would remember unless I wasn't taking the game seriously or I was lying. Was Tric that forgettable?

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 05:48:32 pm »
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 20, 2022, 09:26:18 pm
I want to vote Hector for fundamentally disagreeing with what they're saying, but I don't know if that makes them scum. They haven't done the scumtell I've picked up on from last game so I think they're okay. I will say it if I pick up on it.
This reminds me: Hector has not done the scumtell I've been thinking of so far.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 05:44:32 pm »
Okay before I respond to 4mask I really want to disect this Tric post.

Quote from: TricMagic on September 23, 2022, 10:43:52 am
First, 4mask hasn't rally shown anything that makes me suspect him.
Fair enough, so would you put 4mask in a middle-range? You don't suspect them, but don't townread them either?

Quote from: TricMagic on September 23, 2022, 10:43:52 am
Second, that was not my starting scum team pairing. Saying so is disingenuous since I came to that conclusion after reading all the posts.
It sure fucking was, this is your second post of the game unless I missed it:
Quote from: TricMagic on September 21, 2022, 08:10:29 am
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 20, 2022, 09:26:18 pm
I want to vote Hector for fundamentally disagreeing with what they're saying, but I don't know if that makes them scum. They haven't done the scumtell I've picked up on from last game so I think they're okay. I will say it if I pick up on it.

I'll vote TricMagic, what's going on dude? Gonna claim Knight again?
No, gonna claim
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

As for me up to this post. I'm going to put my suspisions on Max/Jack/Toony as the 3p team. Toony is last, Max is first.

Well, not really, but why vote me?
Your first post is the Yeet one.

You have had Max/Jack/Toony as your scumteam since we've started playing.

Quote from: TricMagic on September 21, 2022, 08:10:29 am
Third, that single sentence just makes me double-down even harder since you'd really like to push others into thinking it's crazy.
It's at least quite wrong.

Quote from: TricMagic on September 23, 2022, 10:43:52 am
Also, saying Max is probably town is very distancing. Their latest reveal Just means they are going to get converted, but it's also a manner to put pressure on Lenglon by saying there is a team of monsters. How would they know that?
Do you believe Max can be converted? Because you sound like you do here and that makes him unlikely to be mafia.

Quote from: TricMagic on September 23, 2022, 10:43:52 am
nin. Max doesn't really have anything to get out of this lynch, so they spill something false and then retire for the day to stop giving info. If they survive, great! If they don't, they've no longer given any info on their teammates we could get out of them.
True or false, which is it Tric?

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 05:29:18 pm »
Quote from: EuchreJack on September 23, 2022, 05:26:13 pm
I mean, I know quite a few players that are town:
Egan_BW
??? You feel that strongly about Egan?

Quote from: EuchreJack on September 23, 2022, 05:26:13 pm
Some are probably town:
4mask...seriously, am I the ONLY one that read 5head's Champs Game?
I did not read this game. Can you explain?

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 05:27:05 pm »
Real quick one.

Quote from: Vector on September 23, 2022, 05:25:10 pm
Quote from: EuchreJack on September 23, 2022, 04:27:05 pm
@Vector: What "hard evidence" exists on 4mask?

That one post of Toony's that I pulled was excellent. Combine with 4mask's lack of self-defense . . . that's a very compelling D1 pick.

4mask did make a post which I wish to respond to now that I'm more free, but yeah.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 04:49:58 pm »
I am home and I bring reads.

Day 1 Reads

Not Evil
Lenglon - really convincing claim right at day start

Good
Jack - Good = Green
Knightwing - literally posting on his phone during his high school class

Weak Good
Max - extremely self-destructive, I think this is actually normal for town!Max
Jim - probably the same level as Vector in reality, I don't like them chasing Jack or Max but maybe I'm the wrong one. I like that they agree with my points but that doesn't make them town. I want them around.
NQT - kind of shakey but I do want NQT to stick around

Maybe Good
Vector - I like that they agree with my points but that doesn't make them town.
Persus - has completely avoided the spotlight, I feel this was also true in Supernatural 10 and they were town in that (masons with NQT)
Egan - has some reads, don't really have a strong impression and don't really know what a town!Egan would do
Hector - hey vig can you shoot Lenglon? hint hint hint. Have been pretty weak otherwise but isn't exactly powerwolfing like they were as mafia recently.
Tric - they still upset me but I won't vote them, I think I'll give Jack the win here. I can't wait to inevitably be mad when Tric successfully protects the mafia on N2.

Evil
4mask - I don't believe their vote on Tric is genuine. Hasn't pressed a case on anybody else and just seems to want to avoid dying (like Max except they're not Max). I also remember them bring up support against Jim to affirm Jack's research into Jim's meta, which seems shady to me since they're making Jim look bad while not taking a firm stance. Straight up calls town cowards when his initial wagon dissolves which I find infuriating.


I'm willing to vote Egan, Hector, or 4mask the most. I don't really want to vote Persus since I like their posts and I also have low confidence in voting Egan or Hector. I probably wouldn't be torn up if Vector or Persus were on the chopping block.


PPE:
I like the new Vector posts. Maybe I would be torn up if Vector was on the chopping block.

More later.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 02:01:13 pm »
@Lenglon:
Fair enough, you are correct. I should have said why.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 01:47:16 pm »
Quote from: EuchreJack on September 23, 2022, 01:41:33 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 23, 2022, 01:35:13 pm
Quote from: EuchreJack on September 23, 2022, 01:27:24 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 23, 2022, 09:23:49 am
What is saying you're a Warden mean? Do you plan on saying more or are you just saying that to sound authorative?
This was BAD Toony. Very Bad.

@Tric: My apologies, you in fact responded quite well to Toonyman.  Good job!
Screw you. My opinion on your reads is that they range from surprisingly accurate to complete ass, but you move around so much that your good reads only last for 5 seconds. And then after the game is over everyone is like "wow Jack you called the whole scum team" but town still lost and you only had that moment of clarity for a heart beat.

Let's think for a moment.

I don't like Tric but it's true I'm not 100% sure.

You don't like Max but you are also not 100% sure.

How can we best come out on top of this situation?
Ceasefire.

I'll agree not to vote Max if you agree not to vote Tric.

Since we are not voting Max or Tric, we'll both have to look at other targets.
I'll even stop voting you, if necessary.
Deal?
Neither of us is voting Max or Tric and I don't care if you vote me. You piss me off like this most games as town so I'm not surprised and will get over it.

How about instead of deal, we put our heads together and find mafia.

I want to make an updated D1 reads list which I will also do when I get home.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 01:42:34 pm »
Quote from: EuchreJack on September 23, 2022, 01:34:50 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 23, 2022, 01:28:17 pm
Quote from: EuchreJack on September 23, 2022, 01:07:20 pm
I also find it suspicious that I'm like 88% sure that Tric is Town, yet Toonyman is relentlessly scumreading Tric.
I was willing to forgive it as a Famous town!Toony gambit, until this latest investigation by Toonyman.
I'm 88% sure Max is town.

Quote from: Lenglon on September 23, 2022, 01:22:25 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 23, 2022, 01:19:24 pm
@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.
This statement bothers me, because it doesn't seem to match with what you said to Tric.
Oh? I wanted to know Tric's intentions for firing their role name at that point.

Literally nobody questioned me when I said I was going to investigate 4mask or NQT early on in the day. Is this because players are terrified of being called ro-ro-role fishers? Grow up.
In my case, I sorta forgot that claim.
I'm positive scum took note of it, but said nothing. I'm obviously not going to clarify what I'm doing, but I had a very clear intention by saying what I did. This is what I want to know from Tric.

Quote from: Lenglon on September 23, 2022, 01:36:52 pm
Toony:
What I'm saying is that this:
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 23, 2022, 09:23:49 am
What is saying you're a Warden mean? Do you plan on saying more or are you just saying that to sound authorative?
and this:
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 23, 2022, 01:19:24 pm
@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.
Do not seem to match.
They do match? I'm asking why they claimed Warden.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 01:35:13 pm »
Quote from: EuchreJack on September 23, 2022, 01:27:24 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 23, 2022, 09:23:49 am
What is saying you're a Warden mean? Do you plan on saying more or are you just saying that to sound authorative?
This was BAD Toony. Very Bad.

@Tric: My apologies, you in fact responded quite well to Toonyman.  Good job!
Screw you. My opinion on your reads is that they range from surprisingly accurate to complete ass, but you move around so much that your good reads only last for 5 seconds. And then after the game is over everyone is like "wow Jack you called the whole scum team" but town still lost and you only had that moment of clarity for a heart beat.

Let's think for a moment.

I don't like Tric but it's true I'm not 100% sure.

You don't like Max but you are also not 100% sure.

How can we best come out on top of this situation?

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 01:28:17 pm »
Quote from: EuchreJack on September 23, 2022, 01:07:20 pm
I also find it suspicious that I'm like 88% sure that Tric is Town, yet Toonyman is relentlessly scumreading Tric.
I was willing to forgive it as a Famous town!Toony gambit, until this latest investigation by Toonyman.
I'm 88% sure Max is town.

Quote from: Lenglon on September 23, 2022, 01:22:25 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 23, 2022, 01:19:24 pm
@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.
This statement bothers me, because it doesn't seem to match with what you said to Tric.
Oh? I wanted to know Tric's intentions for firing their role name at that point.

Literally nobody questioned me when I said I was going to investigate 4mask or NQT early on in the day. Is this because players are terrified of being called ro-ro-role fishers? Grow up.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 01:19:24 pm »
I'm busy at work still but I should be home before deadline.

Quote from: 4maskwolf on September 23, 2022, 11:26:50 am
I don't get Max's roleclaim. If it's true Max literally claimed the most damning part of their role rather than the parts of their role that might exonerate them in our eyes. "Ayy lmao I can get converted by the wolves/third party" isn't a ringing endorsement of leaving you alive.
So what's that make Max?

Hint: Not wolves/third party

Quote from: Lenglon on September 23, 2022, 12:20:13 pm
Also critical in my judgement is that Max, like me, has claimed monster abilities and so, like me, I would expect Max to be non-Good. Toss in the blatent votes to protect himself instead of find evil, and non-Good Max is pretty much a given IMO.
Wrong. Max is being himself.

@Hector:
Persus says right after he misplaced my part earlier.

@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 09:47:46 am »
@Max:
Why are you claiming? You should have at least not mentioned the being recruited part. You also phrased it like you expect to die today.

@Knightwing:
Haha, funny joke.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 23, 2022, 09:23:49 am »
PFP

Quote from: TricMagic on September 23, 2022, 08:05:50 am
Quote from: ToonyMan on September 22, 2022, 10:55:37 pm
I need to go to bed so I can't address everything right now. I'm posting from phone so it's hard for me to quote.

1. I made an inconsistent statement about 4mask earlier where I said I didn't like them using other people's views as their own to vote Tric. That isn't true I must have misremembered then. Reply #275.
2. I've been flipflopping on Tric because I couldn't see him as being mafia with anyone, which I want to attribute to 4mask's play.
3. Tric has called me Evil every time I get aggressive with 4mask and accuse 4mask. It's happened twice now. Reply #330 #379. Even 4mask has mentioned it.
4. Here is my favourite part. I was confused why Tric was still going after Jack and not trying to save himself more by making up a reason to vote 4mask back when Tric and 4mask were leading wagons, this could very well be because Tric does not want to vote 4mask. Reply #274.
Just outright ignore the elephant I revealed why don't you? Why are you backing off so easily, is it cause you no longer have a need to pressure me?
I was falling asleep in bed. I want to respond to 4mask as well when I can.

What is saying you're a Warden mean? Do you plan on saying more or are you just saying that to sound authorative? Why are you defending 4mask so hard, but didn't have them on your townread list?

Quote from: TricMagic on September 23, 2022, 08:08:29 am
I'm all for Max too, I don't see the Jack/Max/Toony team being wrong right now.
You are at least 80% wrong since I'm town. Jack is town. And Max is probably town.

Isn't it funny how your "Boom these are my 3 scumreads" at the start of game hasn't evolved at all? It's like you have a set plan you're following for the day.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 22, 2022, 10:55:37 pm »
I need to go to bed so I can't address everything right now. I'm posting from phone so it's hard for me to quote.

1. I made an inconsistent statement about 4mask earlier where I said I didn't like them using other people's views as their own to vote Tric. That isn't true I must have misremembered then. Reply #275.
2. I've been flipflopping on Tric because I couldn't see him as being mafia with anyone, which I want to attribute to 4mask's play.
3. Tric has called me Evil every time I get aggressive with 4mask and accuse 4mask. It's happened twice now. Reply #330 #379. Even 4mask has mentioned it.
4. Here is my favourite part. I was confused why Tric was still going after Jack and not trying to save himself more by making up a reason to vote 4mask back when Tric and 4mask were leading wagons, this could very well be because Tric does not want to vote 4mask. Reply #274.

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