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I'd say take it slow and make points you see.. But uh.. I still think you're scum with jack/toony. Nothing has really change on that front.

And I think you're scum with 4mask and 4mask is trying to distance from you after you fucked up.

I don't believe 4mask's vote on you at all.

Why Tric and 4mask are suspicious:

1. Their opening posts are the same

Toonyman

Yeet!

ToonyMan

Yeet!

I interpret this as playful camaraderie.

I think it's important to note that Tric posted after 4mask here, which means it's likely Tric did this of their own accord because they thought it would be funny.

2. 4mask's progression on Tric

My thoughts on Tric are as follows:

Spoiler: Thoughts On Tric (click to show/hide)

I’ve spent so long on MY that most of my reading ability is based on that particular environment, and the way Tric plays is so far outside that mold I have no idea what to do with him. The only thing that comes to mind is I feel like I’d have remembered at least one of his posts by now, but I haven’t.

I ask 4mask about Tric. 4mask says they have no thoughts on Tric.

"I have no idea what to do with them."

Quote from: 4maskwolf on September 21, 2022, 03:47:33 pm

My thoughts on Tric are as follows:

Spoiler: Thoughts On Tric (click to show/hide)

I’ve spent so long on MY that most of my reading ability is based on that particular environment, and the way Tric plays is so far outside that mold I have no idea what to do with him. The only thing that comes to mind is I feel like I’d have remembered at least one of his posts by now, but I haven’t.

Fair given the number of posts I've made doesn't break the single digits. Also Yeet, can't forget that.

Tric chips in agreeing with 4mask that it's fair 4mask would have no thoughts about him. He also reminds 4mask about the yeet post.

Oh right, yeet.

Dude I have no fucking idea I assume he thought it was funny and decided to copy me but I have literally no idea.

Tric is just kinda existing in the thread and apparently according to everyone that should make me nervous so let’s go with that.

4mask is like "oh yeeeah yeet, yeah wtf was Tric doing there?? haha"

I have a theory that follow-the-leader posts are more likely to be wolf than the initial poster (not in the sense of sheeping but in, like, repeating a joke like the yeet thing) but I’m not really sure whether that bears out in practice and I’d be confbiased because I know I’m town.

Then 4mask throws shade on Tric, but isn't sure.

Tric seems to mostly be speaking when spoken to which feels odd for “GIMME YOUR HATS I WANT HATS” man, and is objectively a basic way for wolves to try and fly under the radar.

Mm. The more I think about this the more I’m convincing myself.

Tric

Then 4mask votes Tric for mostly posting to respond to people instead of being GIMME YOUR HATS MAN even though 4mask just said earlier that Tric plays so far outside the MafiaUniverse mold that he has no thoughts on him. Pretty odd to know Tric is the hats man right after. It's not natural.

A bit later...

Lenglon: It's not so much what Tricmagic is doing as what Tricmagic isn't doing.

1. Tricmagic isn't claiming. I'm reading D1 of Supernatural 10 for a different meta read but I noticed that Tric immediately claimed (partial) role in that game, Tric is famous for the hat thing in BYOR 15, and according to players with much more robust Tricmagic metas Tric not going full claim mode immediately is wolf indicative. It's also just objectively unusual for him, to my understanding, not to have done any role thing yet, especially in such a typically role-heavy setup. Though it isn't impossible he randed something important and has wisely kept his mouth shut about it.
2. Tric is being really passive thus far this game, which a) is a pretty easy way to try and skate by as mafia and b) is somewhat out of character for Tric, both in my limited experience and from what others are saying.

Although looking through Supernatural 10 I apparently went after Tric with a case that was predicated in part on low activity from Tric and I was just straight up wrong so murr. Now I'm doubting myself again.

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Man I was an insufferable asshat in the last Supernatural game huh. Especially to Vector. Sorry Vector.

Also sorry to Tricmagic.

4mask gives their main points for why TricMagic is scummy.

I think this is a pretty reasonable case, 4mask doesn't give full confidence at the end but that's whatever.

My problem is that I don't believe he came to this conclusion naturally.

Afterwards...

Toonyman claiming that I'm claiming that I came up with my read on Tric on my own when I clearly state in every post on the matter that people who know Tric better are saying he's wolf because XYZ, I can see it, so I'm sheeping them is interesting in italics.

Where did you say you're sheeping people about Tric?

I'm seeing statements like this from you:

Tric seems to mostly be speaking when spoken to which feels odd for “GIMME YOUR HATS I WANT HATS” man, and is objectively a basic way for wolves to try and fly under the radar.

Mm. The more I think about this the more I’m convincing myself.

Tric

That looks like your own thoughts to me.

I am home.

Quote from: TricMagic on September 22, 2022, 07:12:19 pm

Jacks making point, no NQT charts.

Sadly, don't really see it right now. Any comments on me EuchreJack?

You're town. Stop wasting my time.

Daaaaaaaaaaaamn Jack with the serious face.

I kind of like NQT though, especially after reading the part of Roguelike 7 that you linked.

PPE:

I feel like voting again will probably backfire again somehow, but I also want to win, which means I want to lynch scum, and I think this is the right way to do it, so. notquitethere.

Woah woah wooooooooah

The explosive and dramatic wagons between players is something I feel like I haven't seen in awhile. At least everyone is being respectful enough to do it today and not tomorrow.

Very well reasoned Tric. Is this because I'm voting 4mask?

Cowards.

Somehow the moment a real wagon was forming on me everyone found somewhere else to be.

Huff puff I'm a big bad wolf

Ooo, my bad. I meant Jack, not Max.

Why do so many players dislike Jack??

Quote from: ToonyMan on September 22, 2022, 11:32:48 am

Max being anti-social and uncharismatic isn't anything new.

You don't get to comment after you decided to up and go MGTOW on me last time.
...
TMGHOW.

I don't know what that means, but if you mean completely blowing you off in Hat Mafia and doing my own thing that's entirely my fault and not how I should be treating scumbuddies.

Max being anti-social and uncharismatic isn't anything new.

My townreads right now are.. Egan, NQT, Persus. Legnlon I'm reading as third party, but they're not really a threat at the moment. At least I know they're not scum, and those evildoers are the ones we need to lynch.(

These are good reads.

I don't agree about Jack still.

How about 4mask?

I find it more particularly odd about Vector because they were scum with the rare mafia!Jack in MVM3 R1. I could maybe give them the benefit of the doubt because they haven't played in awhile.

On a reread I kind of agree more with Jim's suspicion of Max, but not Hector.

Tric could maybe be town. I dislike their clamminess and they haven't been crazy enough, but I've gotten town!Tric lynched before by accident.

PPE:

Quote from: ToonyMan on September 22, 2022, 01:35:42 am

I'd eat my foot if Jack is Evil.

Okay? um, the important part is why tho? I want to compare your reasons to mine, and... I don't think I have anything to compare to from this.

Hi my name is Jack and I'm a goblin marauder that gets +2/+2 with haste. Hey did you know that Good is Green? I think Knightwing shouldn't fully always trust Toony. Here's exactly how I'm feeling right now did you want to know that because I think you should know that. My opinion on players changes all of the time also I'm going to vote this random player now because I feel like it by the way do you like my new sweater it was knitted by my new best friend Max yes I'm officially friends with the guy I've never gotten along with but don't tell him okay it's kind of a oneway relationship and it would be weird if he knew about it maybe I should hit the post button and then make another post right away yes that sounds like a great idea