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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 21, 2022, 01:38:10 pm »
See, I say their name and it summons them.

@Persus:
Nice post! I'll have to think about NQT more.

@Egan:
Toony + Lenglon: Explain the gamestate to me or I day-vig you.
Woah woah woah, just read the thread. Give yourself some time.

Your vote on Max is very weak after saying that afterall.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 21, 2022, 12:59:12 pm »
How to catch Evil:

Bad Votes:
Jack - not Evil, they've been like a frantic maniac
Knightwing - not Evil, I feel like he's really trying
Lenglon - not Evil, they've claimed something they didn't have to, I know this is a terrible example but 4mask was in-fact third-party on D1 of S10 even if they were lying about exactly what. I think Lenglon is really crying their heart out here though and believe them strongly

Probably Bad Votes:
NQT - I read them town but could be fooling me. I'm more confident NQT is town than 4mask just from their behavior.
4mask - I read them town but they could be fooling me
Jim - I think he's town based on his goofy mannerisms, but it's personal bias and he could still be Evil, would need convincing

Maybe Votes:
Hector - my gut says they're town but I have no strong reasoning
Max - similar to Hector, my instincts say they're town but I have no strong reasoning. I think their progression with Knightwing looks natural so that's townpoints
Persus - have no read, I should probably check that huh
Vector - could be town but need to see more of them
Egan - hasn't posted
TricMagic - their lynchpool of Max/Jack/Toony is bafflingly bad, which I would probably town read, but they're surprisingly rationally wrong case on Max is concerning. I know it's completely off-base but I could actually understand what he was saying.

I think I want to hear more from Persus, Vector, Egan, and Tric. Those four. Step forward and share.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 21, 2022, 12:41:23 pm »
I've also forgotten Persus13 existed, but do remember liking their query towards Tric here:
I don't have a preference. It's the fact you're setting up a chain of mislynches that bothers me. Scum can't play passive with so many people, so holding back won't work for them. It's enough of a deviation for me to take notice of it.
How do you know they're mislynches?

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 21, 2022, 12:34:08 pm »
@4mask:
Toonyman: For someone who has me as a locked neutral due to respecting my scumplay, I'm surprised you haven't tried too hard to dig to find my alignment.
I mean, I was going to investigate you or NQT tonight but I could probably be more actively hounding players.

Oops I ruined the surprise.

@NQT:
Toony, most of your posting is distant commentary. Where's the beefing? I'm getting too much of a Devil aura from you. Who do you see making a case on by day's end?
I don't really hate anybody but Tric and Hector right now. I like the vote though since Jack has pointed it out too and it's a reasonable vote.

Vector's suspicion of Knightwing/Jack is...weird. Egan hasn't posted. I could argue with Max about something since Egan is still away.

I think Hector's pursuit of Lenglon is some politically correct word for slow in the brain, but I don't know if they hold malicious intent. I'm suspicious of Tric for not drawing attention to themselves, although maybe that's hypocritical.

Lenglon is absolutely correct they've incessantly said they're a town-ally, and I'm baffled players can't read posts and just blindly shout what they want to hear. Maybe because I haven't tunneled on anybody I can see more clearly, food for thought to players reading this.

I would need strong convincing that Jack/Knightwing/Lenglon are Evil and really don't feel like Lenglon should be the focus of discussion while actual Evil avoids scrutiny.

So yeah, the fire is small but I expect it to grow.

@Max:
Who do you think is more suspicious, 4mask or NQT?

What's the deal with Tric? I think they're wrong about everything, but is there a sinisterness to it? I'm currently leaning yes.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 21, 2022, 08:57:35 am »
I don't have a preference. It's the fact you're setting up a chain of mislynches that bothers me. Scum can't play passive with so many people, so holding back won't work for them. It's enough of a deviation for me to take notice of it.
Completely wrong.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 21, 2022, 08:57:07 am »
PFP

@Hector:
I disagree with not believing Lenglon and it's correct that town should sometimes conceal the truth. Webadict has also stated they don't like town claiming early and wish to punish that in games.

@Tric:
Tric, so you're not claiming and your trying to make sense?

Kill'em.

@NQT & Lenglon:
Wow stop bickering. Lenglon explained their situation and is probably being too emotional. NQT is in fact asking questions that have already been answered, but I've also noticed them missing player's posts in this game.

Verdict? Neither are Evil, get over it.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 20, 2022, 11:04:23 pm »
Hmm, expected more posts for some reason.

I didn't explain why Jim is good and that's because I'm biased and like their first post.

I am a Jimp. I'm more likely to join a game if Jim is in them. I don't want to vote Jim unless I have to because I want them around. I feel I'm usually not wrong, but I'm saying this to clarify my read and be honest with everyone.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 20, 2022, 09:26:18 pm »
I want to vote Hector for fundamentally disagreeing with what they're saying, but I don't know if that makes them scum. They haven't done the scumtell I've picked up on from last game so I think they're okay. I will say it if I pick up on it.

I'll vote TricMagic, what's going on dude? Gonna claim Knight again?

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 20, 2022, 09:21:37 pm »
@Persus13:
Given that you've played at least 7 out of the 10 regular Supernatural games, what's your favorite moment from those, and what's a mistake you hope not to repeat for this game?
Oh right...

As for mistakes I don't wish to repeat, some of them are out of my control, like if there's one mafia that converts a vig tonight I'm just going to be mad because finding one scum is annoyingly hard already with so many players and then the extra kill power would push me beyond upset. I don't think Web would do that, but he'd maybe subvert it in some way. There's a lot of Monster stuff going on here.

If we had listened to Luckyowl on D1 of Supernatural 10 and lynched Web we would have been most likely victorious, but we didn't. So maybe I need to take into account even the most inexperienced player's opinion for success. I can't be too dismissive of things that are actually possible, especially when a lynch is happily going through and nobody but the person being lynched is doing anything. Contentment is probably our demise.

Toony: I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that you are correct, and that it wasn't a concern after all, but I did not know that at the time, and thought that the Good players might only be a sub-faction of town, which would require protection. At the time of Jack's question, they were lacking the same information I was, and so I remain concerned about their questioning, but it is currently only a cause for mild suspicion, as I said to Knightwing earlier.
If you can help find Good just as much as Evil that would be appreciated, Lenglon.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 20, 2022, 09:07:58 pm »
EuchreJack - Good
Jim Groovester - Good
Knightwing64 - Good

Lenglon - Not Evil

4maskwolf - I would say Good but I have to respect their play
notquitethere - I would say Good but I clearly need work here lately

hector13 - don't know, not confident
Maximum Spin - don't know, not confident
Persus13 - don't know, not confident
TricMagic - don't know, need to see more
Vector - don't know, need to see more

Egan_BW - hasn't posted

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 20, 2022, 09:04:13 pm »
@Vector:
conversation*

I will say if I had to pick one between the two, I would also vote Jack, not that I agree.

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@Persus13:
Given that you've played at least 7 out of the 10 regular Supernatural games, what's your favorite moment from those, and what's a mistake you hope not to repeat for this game?
I don't really remember. I think there was one where I carried town and we won so I like that one.

*A few minutes later*

I checked, it was Supernatural 7. We went to Day 7 and I was alive for lylo and we won as town taking down the Dark Magus Persus13:
Yeah I guess he's the only mafia left, otherwise it'd be game over.

Persus13



@Hector:
Aww nobody chose entrance music :( (blue) meanies.

Lenglon’s probably third-party if their claim about a post-restriction is true, but I have my doubts it is.

There would be no need for a town!Lenglon to mention a post restriction like that, ‘cause town don’t really need to lie; it would be a little harsh to have a “can’t lie” post restriction on scum in a game of social manipulation (though webadict I think does sometimes tailor roles to players, possibly in more bastard setups though) which leaves TP.
I agree that Lenglon probably isn't "town", but I don't think they're mafia. I don't think they're Evil or in other words worth voting.



@NQT:
No, lynch all liars.
Too simplistic. I partially claim, mislead, imply and outright fabricate as town if it's useful for outplaying scum. Scum thrive in an environment where they have good info on town powers and know who they have to kill and who they need to redirect etc. I beseech all my fellow town players to lie.
Pretty much agree with all of this.



@Knightwing:
To me, this seems kinda out of left field. Especially from you, Jack.
Look elsewhere, Jack is probably town or being a tryhard.

Also Jack, don't bother. Knightwing is town here. Right Max?

Knightwing: I found Jack's questions for me, where he tested if I was willing to say the phrase "I am Good", as suspicious, because to me they did not help him find Evil, and only helped him find Good. Since I believe that Evil wants to find Good, to me that was Evil behavior. Do you think Jack was acting like an Evil? Why or why not?
Kinda? It’s iffy, I don’t have a definite opinion, but Jack jumping onto Max’s totally friendly and not a accusation advice seems to me like knowing I’m a easy lynch d1 and trying to get somebody out fast.

So, if you really wanted to push for a early option, probably Evil.
I would be more critical of Max than Jack here Knightwing. I've got Jack. You can get Max.



@Lenglon:
Knightwing: I found Jack's questions for me, where he tested if I was willing to say the phrase "I am Good", as suspicious, because to me they did not help him find Evil, and only helped him find Good. Since I believe that Evil wants to find Good, to me that was Evil behavior. Do you think Jack was acting like an Evil? Why or why not?
Finding Good is good.

Evil finding Good only matters if they really want to avoid killing non-Town players, although chances are they'll kill Good anyway since most of us are, right?



@Max:
So far I find this Knightwing adequate. Not going to vote you out today.
Yep.



@Vector:
EuchreJack and Knightwing64. I really don't think this is town!EuchreJack because that version of him is usually more relaxed and engaged.
I feel exactly the opposite, why?

Jack and Knightwing's conservation looked very natural and not like scumbuddies, do you think one is scum?

Jack is posting a shit-ton because they're overly eager and just spew exactly how they're feeling when they're town.

Knightwing is trying to convey thoughts (that can be wrong, but still) and double-posting isn't unusual for town!KW. I believe he currently needs to rely on others, but wants to improve by trying to be independent and chase scum himself. This is what he's showing by being suspicious of Jack, even if I think it's incorrect.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 20, 2022, 05:10:18 pm »
ToonyMan, you can't tell Tric not to do his only towntell. :P
I don't think anybody can stop Tric from doing what they want.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 20, 2022, 04:59:29 pm »
Pressure vote onto TricMagic.  He hasn't said his role yet, so must be scum.
Tric has stayed quiet about their role as town before.

Which I strongly recommend Tric do as town here, last Supernatural they claimed Knight on D1 and it was terrible.

My actions also have monster tags. I'm Good, though I can't be inspected.

I have a power that implies there's some kind of evil witch.
Got it.

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Mafia / Re: Webadict's Supernatural - Day 1: The Burning Sun [13 / 13]
« on: September 20, 2022, 04:56:17 pm »
I'd rather catch a mafia then know Jack is town. :P

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