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Toony: Did you ever follow up on this post? Didn't need an answer to feel good about Knightwing?

Town!FoU was ordering his reads list with the colours. Green was town, grey presumably unknowns and/or leans, since there also colours, and orange for third party.

It’s a weird way to do it sure, but I guess FoU thought it might better represent his feelings on the players than just saying it?

Quote from: NJW2000 on September 09, 2022, 05:02:41 pm

Max: I'm not going to ask you to tell us everything, but there's something about your gift-giving I'd like explained.

You wrote this early D2,[...]

Then gave the following:[...] Suggesting the gifting ability is an auto you can't even turn off, not even by dying.

These don't really check out... could you explain?

Sure.
One of my starting abilities is kind of like an active developer. I used that ability n1, and gained a new ability that automatically hands out randomly-selected gifts to random people during the day. Then, at the beginning of d2 (moments after I got it), this activated.

I'm flip-flopping because I genuinely don't know who's town or who's scum. Jim, Toony and Max have not come under any pressure, so I'm practically unable to get any kind of read on them. I'm trying to find something, but it's very difficult, because people are barely playing. You vibe as town, but the interpretation that makes most intellectual sense has you as scum, and I don't know what to trust.

This is exactly like the thing with FoU yesterday. I'm like 55% sure he was actually town at the moment, in which case people are doing exactly the same stuff as D1: not presenting cases, or pressuring anyone but the likeliest elimination. If he was town, I f'd up, but at least I did something.

Right now, I think FoU and Hector's behaviour yesterday looks astonishingly like a scum gambit to clear Hector via FoU's fake flip. Hard-defending a townie gets one town-read, but the flip needs to occur for Hector to actually be trusted. This is why FoU shows no genuine desire to live, despite claiming I am insanely scummy. Naturally, he goes after a much harder player to eliminate D1, and a stronger player than myself, i.e. Toonyman. Also good for getting Toony out of the way rather than myself on D2. Which explains Hector's certainty that I'm scum, but strange reticence in presenting a case on me and voting for me.

Could be an entirely fake flip… if not, as scum, he’d still have a mafiakill and a chance to evolve or protect his partner, though I don’t know what from.


The past half dozen games here have been telling players to trust their daygame, assume bastard and counterintuitive modding rather than reliable inspects/flips and second guessable mods. This is a procgen mafia, so I wouldn’t expect everything to make intuitive sense. But people are still people, and FoU doesn’t seem like town trying to get results.