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I’d be pretty happy with Esteemed Secretdorf vengekilling Esteemed ToonyMan at this point.

I'm fine with dying in this exchange if town wins by killing Max after since I think they're the most likely scum player right now. I would only seriously consider other players after Max is dead.

I will defend myself that I am Town, though.

Evidence why I'm not Mafia (or Pirate):
Imp knows Lenglon targeted me on N2. Lenglon got the result "not in group chat" on N2.

In my perfect world, Secretdorf would go down with Max today and then Imp can inspect Elephant or Jim while I protect Imp. This would force any remaining scum to superkill Imp which seems unlikely, and killing me would be too late. If Elephant and Jim get cleared as Town then we'd have three town confirmed players and scum would still need to kill Imp the following night, they're just done. If Elephant and Jim come back scum then they'll be trapped.

Obviously this loses to Elephant/Jim/Imp all being Pirates, but then I doubt Max would be a SK in that case.

PPE:

One problem regarding that: I randomized Esteemed Jim Groovester last night, so he didn’t do the redirect.

Didn't Jim say he stole one of Secretdorf's votes? Nobody else is missing votes and Secret is at 5 votes.

Let me state Imp that today will be the tipping point in this game. If you're town and decide to go the way of the martyr then I don't think we have a good chance of winning. Maybe I brought this upon myself. I can tell you're trying Imp, but you need to be trying for all of us. Think about this Imp: You've spent more days in this game as Webadict's role than your original role. What are you at this point? Does it matter? All that matters is that you're town and will PROVE to the scum that you won't be killing anyone tonight. I think Lenglon's list is pretty solid. Prove you are Town for us!!

And here I thought I was going to die on D1 after Jim shoots me because my stubborn ass thought Jack was a Pirate.

Instead I get to watch Imp die on D5 because they won't fucking break a trivial post-restriction.

Quote from: Secretdorf on January 01, 2024, 04:25:10 am

Deadchat power's a life saver. I can take Max with me today if that's what's wanted.

Nobody wants you to do that. Why would anyone want you to do that?

This is the part where you also fullclaim Max.

I've done my part, now it's your turn.

I don't think my ability would say if I protected two players in the same night, no. This is why I was so unsure if I had self-targeted on N3 until I realized my Shambles' Disabled wasn't removed (it would have been if I had self-targeted, Fallacy confirmed this to me via PM).

So realistically:
On N3 Lenglon tried to target Max, but instead definitely targeted BlackHeart because Lenglon got Marked by Death and then either targeted Imp, Hector, themselves, Canadian Kitten, or Secretdorf...for some reason.

Meanwhile Hector tried to target Jim, but hit (only) Max instead...for some reason.

This is obviously unclear because at least one player is hiding information from us, because they're scum. The same way BlackHeart hid how they blocked Imp on N1 until D3.

Still not entirely convinced Esteemed The Canadian kitten is telling the truth…

Which part? I think their inspect on you and the deadchat relaying are both the truth. They probably didn't kill NQT.

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Another reason I think Lenglon is probably town is because Imp saw them target me on N2, which is what Lenglon claimed. This was the same night that Webadict was killed. While it may be possible that Lenglon inspected me and killed Webadict the same night, I don't believe that's true. The other night that had a Town death, N4 on NQT, Lenglon was role-blocked (and bombed) by Elephant Parade. This means it was unlikely that either of them killed NQT, especially Lenglon.

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I will share my whole role now:

I am Trafalgar Law. I am Town but inspect as Pirate.


I have the previously mentioned protect that also removes Disabled and status conditions. This ability is called Surgeon of Death and is the crux of my role.
I had a bus called Shambles which I can supercharge to swap the roles of two players, but then it becomes Disabled and can't be used anymore. If I don't supercharge it's just a bus.
Lastly, I have my Radio Knife which allows me to roleblock a player, however again I can supercharge it to not only roleblock a player but kill them too. This will Disable the ability.

I used Surgeon of Death on N1, N3, and N4 targeting Imp. They all said I performed my action.
I supercharged Shambles on N2 and swapped Imp and Webadict. This also said I performed my action.
I have not used Radio Knife at all. I haven't felt comfortable using it yet, because it would mean not protecting Imp. I will need to use it at some point if this game continues.

Quote from: ToonyMan on December 31, 2023, 11:01:31 pm

I'm okay voting Secretdorf over Max today. I want to hear from Secretdorf as well.

I'm leaning more toward MS because SK!MS is a possibly untargetable merger and mafia!SD is just a guy with a bunch of votes.

I can kill Secretdorf tonight if we vote Max today.