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Quote from: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 10:29:49 pm

Also I can't help but say OMGUS

Oh I wished you would.

See, you're the one that is OMGUSing. At the end of Day 1 you were my suspect and that never changed. The vote you placed on me was the OMGUS, and mine was a continuation.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on March 15, 2010, 04:00:33 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 03:55:45 pm

HAVE YELLOW HAIR.

Sold.

So, uh, you go Super Saiyan?

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 01:42:24 pm

Caution SirBayer.

That's why people think not voting to kill is scummy.  You can't just be like, "I'm going to place my vote on this dude and back off if he's not my type."  You vote someone and ATTACK them.  See Webadict's top post for this page (Que people bragging they don't use the default posts per page junk).  Leaving a vote on someone and WAITING does NOTHING.

Speaking of which, EDUREN.  Where are you and who are your suspicions right now!

See, Toony, I attack. That's kind of what I do when I pressure vote, y'know?

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Quote from: Mr.Person on March 15, 2010, 02:16:37 pm

Apparently, you missed the entire part earlier on in the game where I said I thought Webadict was a Jester. Good for you, ignoring small details like that.

...I did? Damn. I hate it when that happens.

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Quote from: SirBayer on March 15, 2010, 12:15:40 pm

Nirur looked like town. I didn't break him entirely, which was annoying, but I figured there was no point in lingering on him.

Oh, and I didn't defend him because, y'know, that's a stupid thing to do. You let people answer their own questions. You, just like Webadict, appear to be criticizing me for doing things that townies do. Which, needless to say, I find incredibly suspicious.

No, if you think someone is town, you try to stop them from getting lynched. Letting a bandwagon go on without saying a peep even though you think the player getting lynched is town is extremely scummy. I'm not sure how anybody can even begin to argue otherwise, but maybe you'll surprise me.

I did make a peep (see right before he got lynched, I said a tiny bit), but think about it for a second. Why would I EVER defend anyone else, especially someone I only suspect is town? I was unable to break him; this was partially stalwartness on his part, partially lack of motivation at the time. So I left the job to the massive number of folk on him, to see the reactions. The reactions I saw confirmed what I thought, and that was what I wanted.

Theeeeen he killed himself, but hey. We can still learn what we needed from it.

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Quote from: SirBayer on March 15, 2010, 12:15:40 pm

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Webadict was not throwing out WIFOM. Stop trying to make it, it doesn't exist. Period. End of story. I'm not even sure what you're talking about anymore.

Just read it again. Read it a few more times. And then stop defending your buddy.

You seem to be unable to point out the WIFOM in his statement, which only makes me more sure there is, in fact, no WIFOM in his statement.

I tried already, you tell me it isn't there. I can't change your mind.

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Quote from: SirBayer on March 15, 2010, 12:15:40 pm

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SirBayer, trying to kill people via lynch is, in no way, scummy. I have no idea why you think that lynching people is evil and vile and whatever, but it's the whole point of the game. Pressure votes are one thing, sure, but voting a guy who has 3 other votes (including not unvoting, so this does mean you) sends a strong message that you want the player you're voting lynched. Either that or you don't care, but that's pretty easy to determine.

OH, OKAY

VOTING TO KILL PEOPLE WHENEVER YOU FEEL LIKE IT IS A-OKAY!

No. No, I vote to pressure, and if they turn up scum, I leave it there. You don't vote with intention to kill, not in the Mafia I've been taught to play. Pressure first, then killing. Only killing when you're sure the target is scum.

First off, not everyone pressure votes. You're going to have to learn that real fast. Second, this was after you had pressure voted for awhile and others jumped in the wagon. I believe Nirur Torir had 4 votes total on him total.[/s]

Actually, fuck it. This part doesn't matter. You win the point, I don't care, it doesn't matter.

Cool!

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Quote from: SirBayer on March 15, 2010, 12:15:40 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person on March 14, 2010, 02:45:57 pm

Quote from: dakarian on March 14, 2010, 12:56:30 am

Web WHAT power?

That's rolefishing.

Quote from: dakarian on March 14, 2010, 08:47:20 am

O.o  you thought you was a Jester?  Did your shell come back on? 

Either you're being dense on purpose or you just made a grave mistake. Webadict asked you "Why are you voting me if you think I'm a jester?", to which you respond with confusion... and back off. Wait, if you were confused, why did you back off?

So, first part is... retarded confusion or complete lack of attention. Gee, I guess you don't need to read his posts to know his alignment?

Second part is an accusation.

That is never followed through on. The next post is all of "GEE WELL THAT'S HOW I DO THINGS" when Dak actually replies to your arguments. So I guess you've really got nothing on him but your complaints that he's capable of making an argument.

I'm not sure if you realize this, but I'm sort of in the middle of voting you. It'd look quite odd if I were to drop my vote on you to join in on the Dakarian wagon.

On that note, unvote SirBayer and vote Dakarian.

lolwut

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Does it look like I changed my mind mid-post? It should, because I did. I was rereading your actions after Nirur Torir got wagon'd when I realized that not only had you done everything you said you should, you also did exactly what I expected a townie to do and not what I would of expected scum to do. Not to be rude, but I don't think you're that good as a scum player yet. I know I'm not, and I don't think anybody but maybe Webadict or Alex are that good. Then I looked back at my entire argument, especially the tail end of it, and realized the entire thing was pointless semantics and other bullshit that wouldn't prove you town or scum no matter how you answered it. Then I looked past that we disagree on shit that, frankly, doesn't matter, and decided you were town. Then I thought how odd it would lurk to have a turnaround right after you vote me and thought about waiting. Then I realized that's what scum would of done and said "fuck it," and, that's how we're here.

Ah, okay. Well. I guess that's what we've got going on.

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Anyways, no more of that until the next paragraph. Dakarian, that may explain why you backed off of Webadict, but then that leaves the small problem of why you voted Webadict to begin with. I know this doesn't sound like enough to vote a person, but trust me. Dakarian, go ahead, answer this. Maybe your scummy self can surprise me.

Quote from: SirBayer on March 15, 2010, 12:15:40 pm

Mr. Person.

You're making attacks. You're not following through with them. You've got no reason, and when confronted with that fact, you drop all your arguments and run for cover behind "THAT'S WHAT I DO". You're defending Webadict, attacking (sideline attacking, anyway) the same person he's attacking, and you haven't really spoken a word to him or gotten in on any of the arguments or talked about his alignment or anything.

You're related somehow and I want to know how, and I want to know how now.

Sam I am. I do not like green eggs and ham.

I don't think Webadict is scum, so I'm going to listen to what he says. Please clarify what you mean by related, I'm confused. Actually, you know what, don't. Your readings will be better if neither I nor Webadict have any idea what you mean, so just do whatever. As a side note, you're going to have to ask questions to get answers.

By related, I meant I was under the impression you hadn't put out an opinion on him and that you were buddying him and that it tasted like scumbuddies. I wanted to see if it was true, and I still do, although realizing I missed a keystone in my argument kind of cripples it.

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You're as blinded by bias as much as I was. Seriously, you're calling what I did sidelining? At the time, I did in fact think Dakarian was scum. OH NOES! I didn't think I made it any secret I was thinking he was scum. I don't throw around "You're scum" the way other people do, so when I say "You're scum", that means that I 100% think that player is scum. I wasn't sure with Dakarian, so I asked him some questions. I didn't like his "answers", and I decided my current vote target was scum, so I moved over to Dakarian. It's that simple.

Unless you mistakingly think that anybody who threatens without voting is sidelining, but then you have to admit, there's 3 scum and each player has 1 vote, so naturally everybody's going to have 2 players they think are scum that they aren't going to be voting. I think we have lurking scum. Yes, I fucking see you, lurkers.

I suppose I have to concede this point as well.

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Quote from: dakarian on March 14, 2010, 12:59:07 pm

Mr.Person did a "I'll explain everything shortly."  So I replied with "Then do it!".  There's not much more to say until he replies.. IF he replies.

Notice the veiled threat? I don't understand, did he seriously think I would just up and disappear on him? Actually, that may not of been such a bad assumption. I happen to know for a fact that lurking is a good way to get Dakarian to unvote you. Oops, I let the cat out of the bag!

We’ll have to see if we can prove that, hmm? I don’t see that being a deep-set rule, and it’s one that makes sense to me.

Not much more to say. I think your mid-paragraph change-of-heart actually sums it up, and you’re not my prime suspect now that I’m back on track with what actually happened.

Unvote Mr. Person.

Toonyman. Toonyman, Toonyman, Toonyman.

I’m still very concerned by that sudden jump-vote yesterday, later on. I’m very concerned by your lack of significant content or accusations. I’m very concerned by you, in general.

So. Let’s see you actually detail your suspicions. Not just tell us who. Go back. Do some work. Put some time in. Bring us evidence. Bring us posts.