2011
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 19, 2022, 08:27:09 pm »Spoiler: Day 2 Analysis (click to show/hide)
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2012
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 19, 2022, 07:00:44 pm »
*cracks knuckles*
I return home. Time to get to work.
I return home. Time to get to work.
2013
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 19, 2022, 11:43:11 am »
That's okay Max. Jim gets his wish.
2014
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 19, 2022, 08:57:39 am »I will vote anyone who isn't Roden, Jack, or Egan. Max is likely fine.
2015
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 19, 2022, 08:43:34 am »...about Toonyman being scum.A convincing argument.
2016
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 19, 2022, 08:39:40 am »
I will vote anyone who isn't Roden, Jack, or Egan. Max is likely fine.
2017
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 19, 2022, 08:28:42 am »
I'm multitasking on a phone so I can't be as elaborate as I want, but I want to say something at least. Some of these are repeats because I wish to say them again.
1. Roden admitted to lurking on purpose and nobody called him scum for it (except Knightwing, which everyone ignored).
2. Jack wants Roden and Max elected, but doesn't want Max to be Emperor should a D4 pass, which is a strange strategy.
3. Jack claims they voted me on D2 to find my true nature, but they were harping how I was desperate for candidacy before D2 even started. And like NQT points out their accusations of me are erroneous if you actually read D2, I didn't push for my candidacy. I've shot down Jack's slander constantly this game.
4. Jack convinced Jim to vote himself on D1, which then Egan joined as well. NQT points out right after how suspicious this looks and it ruins Jim's candidacy chances. I think this was intentional. Egan hasn't been involved on D2, but Jack pulled a similar stunt on me D2. I think it's actually quite a smart strategy.
I feel that Reina's lack of presence on D2 has significantly hurt us. Also NQT as well, so I'm hopeful they can shed a light today.
I will try to be present in this thread as much as possible, at least on a phone anyway. I don't want there to be any misunderstandings.
1. Roden admitted to lurking on purpose and nobody called him scum for it (except Knightwing, which everyone ignored).
2. Jack wants Roden and Max elected, but doesn't want Max to be Emperor should a D4 pass, which is a strange strategy.
3. Jack claims they voted me on D2 to find my true nature, but they were harping how I was desperate for candidacy before D2 even started. And like NQT points out their accusations of me are erroneous if you actually read D2, I didn't push for my candidacy. I've shot down Jack's slander constantly this game.
4. Jack convinced Jim to vote himself on D1, which then Egan joined as well. NQT points out right after how suspicious this looks and it ruins Jim's candidacy chances. I think this was intentional. Egan hasn't been involved on D2, but Jack pulled a similar stunt on me D2. I think it's actually quite a smart strategy.
I feel that Reina's lack of presence on D2 has significantly hurt us. Also NQT as well, so I'm hopeful they can shed a light today.
I will try to be present in this thread as much as possible, at least on a phone anyway. I don't want there to be any misunderstandings.
2018
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 19, 2022, 07:59:37 am »Toony's doing that scum thing again where he scrambles to change the status quo near the end of the day phase so that people panic and change up their vote without thinking it through.I disagree with your nomination. Flabbergasted "WTFs" and "huhs??" don't count as a defense.
Toony why did you wait until now to scum read me? Your reads in general seemed to line up with what other people were thinking, but now have taken a sharp turn with little explanation for it.
I'm wondering at this point if you want Knightwing nominated just because you know he's unlikely to amass votes in the election. If a Cabal member gets nominated, that's one less person to have to compete with for votes on Day 4.
Explain to me how my reads have taken a sharp turn.
@Jim: It's actually harder to name a recent game where Toony doesn't do this as scum. Temple Mafia is the most obvious example, but it is a common tactic he employs. I can link when I'm not pfp half asleep.How is this the same?
Oh, and the lying thing is because... I don't have a good reason. It's just easier to defend if no one thinks about why too hard. Being roundabout is how I rationalize decisions without having to distract from more important matters, probably.
Why do you trust Roden?
2019
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 18, 2022, 09:09:21 pm »Since I'm still a n00b at ISO writing, and I know it needs work, I'd welcome constructive criticism.Fully constructive feedback:
*EJ assumes the fetal position*
I wouldn't include quotes you aren't responding to, it'll make it more concise and easier to look at. You could put them in a spoiler, or personally my favorite is creating a hyperlink to the post in question. Also maybe don't include lines where you're just summarizing. Unless you think it's relevant to a later passage. I'm really proud of my ISOs of Jim/Bluarian/NQT at the end of Roguelike Mafia 7 as an example. Although that was me on a full-time "working from home" schedule.
Your end results need to be more assertive. The summary is nice, but it reads more like "Results: Inconclusive".
I'm phone posting, sorry.I actually still don't understand what Toonyman is talking about here. Please explain Toonyman.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=179819.msg8374104#msg8374104
Here:
Personally, I think Scenario #2 or #3 is most likely. Scenario #1 is too blatant, it's unlikely that Reina and Egan are both mafia. It comes down to whether NQT is town or not, and he probably is.
Speaking of work, I'm kind of swamped with a project this week so I'm not confident I can give a detailed explanation tonight of why I believe Jack and Roden are scum. I will try to at least have something tomorrow when I'm on a computer that doesn't block bay12forums...
2020
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 18, 2022, 08:13:40 pm »No offense to Most Honorable Imperial Candidate Notquitethere, but reviewing Toonyman's post reveals that if (yes if) Toonyman is scum, he could very well be on a scum team with NQT. Note how NQT & Toonyman has supported one another the entire game.Unlikely. You cannot claim I'm desperately jockeying for a D2 candidacy in one breath and then say I'm possibly partners with NQT in the other, unless you want to argue I'm that much of a tryhard, which again I was never "jockeying" in the first place.
An ISO of me would be interesting though. I should be more clear of my suspicions of you and Roden I think, to convince others.
Toony, pick two more candidates that don't include you.Reina is absent, so Knightwing and Jim.
2021
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 18, 2022, 05:47:06 pm »Yes, bask in my glory. Have your brain CONFOUNDED. I know you've learned nothing so I will teach you in this game.NQT, I believe today may have revealed the Onyx team is Jack/Roden and either Egan or Max. Most likely Egan.Lol, fucking WHAT?!
2022
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 18, 2022, 05:35:09 pm »
NQT, I believe today may have revealed the Onyx team is Jack/Roden and either Egan or Max. Most likely Egan.
2023
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 18, 2022, 05:29:55 pm »Um, what Toony said?What do you think of Jack and Roden?
I did actually believe his claim because I'm dumb. At the time it made sense to me that he was likely with Roden.2. They voted for Web end of D1:What's wrong with voting for Web? I mean, I wouldn't, but come on, you didn't believe his weird sects thing, right?
2024
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 18, 2022, 05:25:57 pm »Also...Knightwing? Why do you want him nominated?Because he's my second highest town read after NQT, maybe even higher now.
I'm mixed at the beginning.
I get a townread here.
Me mumbling to myself, I'm internally questioning whether mafia!Knightwing plays like this and I come to the conclusion that no, he doesn't.
Max townreads Knightwing, which I weigh heavily.
(Webadict also scumreads Knightwing, which I weigh oppositely.)
In conclusion it's a very strong townread.
2025
Mafia / Re: Jade Court - Nomination Day 2 - United Or Divided?
« on: May 18, 2022, 05:04:45 pm »Why don't you share why you think Egan is Onyx?
1. They're not cooperative when being inquired:
I don't support myself, fuck that guy. My council is Meph, Fal, and Mamobo.
2. They voted for Web end of D1:
Uhh, Webadict then. It's not gonna win the vote but whatever. Also Shorten.
3. They haven't posted at all for D2! They're literally on right now. I don't want to be a downer, so I'm not holding any grievances if you want to post something Egan.
Reina hasn't posted at all for D2 either, so that is a fair argument and the biggest reason I haven't voted for them.
PPE:
I haven't voted for them today, but yes I was planning on voting Reina today and was likely going to push for their nomination if they were around. But they haven't been around, so that's why I voted myself and then Knightwing.Are you denying that you've been pushing for a Reina nomination?I think it's weirder that Toony started pushing more for a Reina nomination after Web switched from her and voted me, and that Toony wants Knightwing nominated at all.I seem to recall voting for myself after three players showed me support, during Reina"s absence and continued absence.