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Messages - ToonyMan

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I used Mind Crush and Magical Hats on D1.
I used Duel and Heart of the Cards on D2.
I used Shuffle and Horn of the Unicorn on D3.

I haven't used these Celestial Gauntlets, but I know mafia used Superkill last night.

I have no argument against being a godfather beyond the fact town have two confirmed millers. I strongly urge conferring with Roden about this game if you don't trust me.

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Tric, you can't be mafia unless it's exactly with Roden. But then that means every doctor in this game is mafia and mafia have kills that go through protection for no reason. It's so unlikely it only bolsters my reads of Roden and Tric in the first place.

How in the world did you shoot someone though? None of your abilities does that.
I copied Roden on N2. I strongly believe they tried to shoot NQT, which also failed FOR SOME REASON.

2193
Am I suppose to ask 4mask if he brushed his teeth this morning? I'm starting to forget 4mask exists except that I've wanted them dead the entire game and tried to shoot them on N2.

This pretty much confirms he gave the vote ability to Jim for brownie points though. It frustratingly made Jim unwilling to vote 4mask.

2194
Keep in mind Tric that me and Roden can't be mafia together as we had all the time in the world to hammer you yesterday for game. I would have to be mafia with 4mask or NQT, and I'm very willing to vote either, though I prefer 4mask as I just don't see Roden with NQT.

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I will full claim now since it's lylo. I recommend NQT does the same.

I am Yami Yugi as well as Yugi Moto.

My auto is Millennium Transformation that let's me switch between roles to perform two actions at night.

Yami Yugi has:
Mind Crush - remove autos
Duel - steal ability
Shuffle - refill oneshot
 
Yugi Moto has:
Heart of the Cards - copy one player ability onto another
Horn of the Unicorn - prevent roleblocks
Magical Hats - bus drive

I also hold Celestial Gauntlets.

2196
Thank you Tric.

So both Roden and Tric protected Max, as expected.

Now, I wonder which players I targeted?

In any case, I can confirm that mafia have a oneshot called Superkill that bypasses redirections and protections. I wonder how I could possibly know this. They appear to have unfortunately held onto it until last night.

This is good info though, as it means mafia were given a way to deal with protections, in other words MY ROLE MY ROLE MY ROLE Tric is almost certainly town from that fact alone. It might actually come down to him for lylo which is really annoying because he'll need to believe I'm not a godfather in a game with already two miller, but anyway.

I feel like Roden is genuine here, or at the very least not mafia with NQT.

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You protected me last night instead of Max, didn't you Roden?

I'm going to bed for today. Nobody vote for any reason or I'll beat you up.

2198
I can take a wild guess why Max is dead, but I want to hear what Tric did first.

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I got a response back from Web: I can't give away the Gauntlets, so they're staying with me.

2200
I'm probably done today since I'm doing something and day is almost over so I'm just going to vote now.

No Lynch

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Also Toony, I don't think there is any rule against trading items around during the day phase. So you can pass those gauntlets on now. (And 4mask should have been able to do that too instead of it being locked to an auto-thing.)
If I can I'll give the Gauntlets to Max right now.

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And you know why I want you dead instead of Roden? Because I believe Roden is telling the truth. If he tricked me then good games, he wins. If he's legit then town is in a good position to win. That's what's going to happen.

Meanwhile Tric is sounding as scummy as fucking possible so I get to enjoy that for another day end, but I don't really care if I lose to Roden/Tric anymore because that would mean I was wrong about pretty much everything this game. So congratulations 4mask and NQT, you guys were right and me and Max get to lose town the game.

2203
NQT or Roden is lying, which is why I STILL find it baffling you've gone after Tric and now me instead of Roden, what the fuck?

Like dude, there's this part of me that's like "if Roden just held onto his vig shot and is mafia then town just loses if we no-lynch", but your absolute REFUSAL to understand me is pissing me off.

2204
I have no idea if Roden actually made a vig shot, which you also don't appear to be able to read.

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Roden should be super scum from NQT's POV, but instead they copy 4mask and vote Tric even though Roden could have just as easily been the "hypnotizer" and not Tric.
You could just read what I wrote.

It's obvious to me that the team must be TricMagic/Roden:

Tric 'protects' 4mask, after Roden had claimed to want to vig 4mask. So they set up their alibis early. Tric hypnotises ("power of friendship") 4mask into performing the kill. Jim was picked as the target because everyone knows only 4mask can kill Jim. And also Jim had expressed doubt about Tric's clam (the implausibility of "sacrifice").

Either that, or a scum!4mask just straight up shot Jim (why??) while his scum partner Tric doctored him, anticipating a shot from the vig. In either of these scenarios, Tric is scum. POE: Tric, Roden, 4mask.

At that time, with the facts as they were know to me, there were two likely teams. And both had Tric on them. So Tric was the best vote (and, indeed, still is for similar reasons). Simple predicate logic:

(A AND B) OR (B AND C) = B AND (C OR A)

Don't tell me you don't understand this basic argument.

You want to use logic? Okay.

1. 4mask and I can confirm that Tric's death gave 4mask a protection based ability, not some hypnotizing ability. In addition, there would be no use for this item if Tric was mafia with the one exception of Roden's one-shot protect...which would also be useless if the team is Tric/Roden.
2. Roden said they were going to shoot last night, but only Jim died by 4mask's hand. Is Roden's entire role-claim on D2 false? They're either lying scum or something weird happened.
3. Roden said they shot you last night and you didn't die. Either he's lying, you're lying, or a hidden malefactor is at play. This hidden malefactor would not be Tric as it paints Roden poorly for no benefit in a Tric/Roden world.

Order of events on D3:
4mask - "The bad: I was somehow hypnotized into killing Jim Groovester and one of my items got ganked."
Roden - "NQT, you're not a pure Tracker. Full claim please."
4mask - Fullclaims their XCOM role.
Toony - "I'm the one that stole the Celestial Gauntlets from you 4mask."
Tric - "I protected 4mask last night." Also some insane theories that don't make sense.
Note: Even Tric expected to get bussed by me last night.
Partial claims by me and Max.
NQT - Mostly fullclaims their role and actions, leaves out role names.
NQT tries to argue that mafia would shoot Tric if he was really doctor, but this doesn't make sense if mafia fear my bus driving, which they would expect me to do during N2 still.
Roden - "The reason I made these requests is because I targeted you, NQT. Everyone acting shocked that 4mask isn't dead...why? Why are you confused? I made it clear I wanted to lynch NQT yesterday and only wanted to Vig 4mask because no one else was a viable target. But since you guys wanted to mis-lynch an obvtown after I told you all not to AGAIN, I feel like it should be obvious that I was going to shoot NQT."
"Two, and this is a much bigger problem: my action was successful. My results told me that I, as a fact, did manage to flatten NQT into a pancake. However, he's still here. Why? If Tric targeted 4mask, why was my action still successful, yet NQT still lives?"
Roden - Roden theorizes what could be happening if my second yet-to-be-claimed action was me bus driving again. You know, that thing I heavily hinted at doing with Max on D2 and left in the minds of everyone that would keep mafia from wanting to kill Tric.
Toony - I claim my second action that I copied Roden and targeted 4mask.
Max - Max implies they role-copped 4mask last night and can confirm their role is called X-Com.

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