@Dakarian:
You keep throwing up words for me to read, so I scanned through them all a bit. You are accusing me of getting to close to Webadict and trusting his words? This is simply not true, I went
against him early when he said Alexhans (or Mr.Person I don't remember) was Town. Turns out he was Town. He told me to hit myself with a lead pipe (I did not). I agree with him this time, because it is TRUE.
@Web
Thought so. You're running off your gut. You also seem pissed over Day 1. Silly that, since it's good for the town to scumhunt rather than bandwagon. I can't help the fact that the town decided to follow my lead over and over. All I could do is hunt the best way I know how.
Very well. You ask me "How I am town." Very messy question, but I'll answer anyway.
I don't follow bandwagons, nor ever ask the town to follow me blindly. When Josh made his offer to reset, I didn't deny him or jump with him: I saw where the town could turn a semi-risk into a near-sure bet by asking for confirmation. That way, the only way for Josh to lie is to have a second scum with his 'known PR' cover for him. I didn't like the idea of trading a scum for a Beloved Princess, especially since it would destroy the chance of a good Day 1 discussion, give the mafia 2 free kills, leave you dead, and possibly lead to another kill from the Chaotic role (since all of us would have <2 posts in Day 2.. since NO posts would have occurred). Trading 2 scum wouldn't be so bad though.
Of course, chances are, it would just lead to someone confirming and us using the reset, as is what happened.
After that, I scumhunted. I've proven that I don't tunnel vision, nor do I just accept other's arguments. I listen to them, argue with them, prod them, until I get good or bad answers. If I want to kill, I don't DEMAND the town to kill, but instead ask them to take notice. I don't ask for a 'counterargument' to go "OMG YOU DEFEND SCUM!" I WANT those counterarguments so that I can make sure "I" am sound in my reasoning. I could've easily kept pushing on Alex: you were being rude, Alex was being a jerk, and many MANY wanted him dead. It wouldn't take much just to go Tunnel Vision and pass around Person's post and your outcries to finish the kill. I mean, JEESH, YOU got sick of him enough to put him on the Kill list.
But I didn't. I listened to Person's argument and shut down that bandwagon. I never fully confirmed him town, but I did pull away.
Btw, I asked you about your "don't kill him" since you didn't say whether that was towards Meph or Panda. The day ended before you replied, though.
Fact is, I've shown myself as town time and again, from acting in the town's best interests to taking risks that would hurt my credibility or even kill me. I avoided mindless following and explained my actions every step of the way. THAT is why the town followed me Day 1 and not you. For every explanation post you gave, you had 2 or 3 that browbeat the town or pushed it towards mindless following.
You claim you could come up with a million reasons. I doubt that. I bet if that gut was removed, THESE would be your reasons:
1. You swear the mafia is trying to stop you from following the list:
(which sounds odd since it means the Chaotic role (or Arg if his 'random' did the kill) is scum or else the mafia were VERY lucky. It also brings out the "What if the Mafia WANTS you to follow that list" WIFOM. It also grows weak since you're willing to kill me for being on the list but NOT josh, meaning you AREN'T just following the list, contrary to what you said when you first posted.)
2. I've lead the town towards multiple town deaths.
(Which, like I point out to Cheeetar, is Pot-kettle-black since much of your list had Townies as well. Bad reasoning to assume that someone can't possibly have the same idea you do)
3. I'm hard to read as town since there's too many town-tells. That reeks of the "Too Town" argument.
The best argument given so far is that I didn't "directly say I was town" and that I mentioned the Doctor before others have. The strongest force the town has is that Web is after me. The strongest forces you have, Web, is that the gut that found Vector in BM1 and Meph here points to me.
I'll end it all with this. If your gut still streams "Scum" then go and vote, but DON'T shorten the day. If I only have a few RL days to work with then I'm going to go scumhunting. If I live the day, I'll find a proper scum to kill. If I die, I'll make sure to provide enough for you to find the proper scum tomorrow.
If you have any other questions or issues, I'll gladly answer, but if that's all then don't mind me when I turn to other matters.
Dakarian, this post doesn't say anything! You just went over what a good townie should do. I still believe you to be scum, remember when Pandarsenic (a confirmed dead townie now) said that people like to encourage me into lynching wrong people? (that being Alexhans who was nightkilled). You
knew Alexhans was Town, you knew that and you said I was doing a good job and should
continue!
@Sir Josh:
@Josh
Considering you know Toony, what about him is exactly NOT Toony-town?
Note I don't say 'Normal town'. We all know Toony-town doesn't act like how we want him to act. We don't have time to hunt folks we don't like. What makes him SCUM rather than his normal self?
Furthermore, is Toony your only target? Any idea on who the other two are?
I wouldn't say I KNOW Toon, as I've really only played a handful of games with him, but if I had to say it, it'd be because scum toon reacts badly to tension. Not pressure, but tension. By that I mean the more 'serious' the day is, he gradually gets quieter and contributes less, opting to go with safer bets.
As for who else might be scum? I'm thinking:
Diakron (For generally being suspicious and not making sense)
Cheeetar (For reasons being made apparent by Dakarian)
Boksi (For lurking up until now)
Frelock (Replaced Brothernature, then is replaced himself by Nihilist? I think that's the first time that's ever happened in mafia. Not quite sure what to say.)
WA said that Cheeetar is very likely town, so I'm willing to mark up his awkward defenses as general awkwardness if WA can assure me there's solid evidence for his claim.
@Boksi
I'm glad you could join us.
I'm going to mull over things for a while before voting though. See how things progress.
I hope you can stay with us more consistently from now on.
This is true, I do not like tension.
However! This does not mean I do not have Town as best interest in my heart. I want to help Town for once! I usually live to end-game anyway...at least now. I AM TOWN. I don't like tension either way.
