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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 30, 2023, 04:23:04 pm »
@Elephant:
Thanks, this helps. It is extremely likely that Lenglon targeted Jim and BlackHeart last night.

So BlackHeart isn't Mafia. This has been established now.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 30, 2023, 04:06:40 pm »
Quote from: Jim Groovester on December 30, 2023, 04:00:04 pm
Max, if you and only you ask me to I will directly clarify a few things.
Jim you have a lot of the information here. If you're really in a groupchat you should probably be wary about a BlackHeart elimination. If you're not in a groupchat then...isn't BlackHeart just scum here from your POV?

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 30, 2023, 04:02:57 pm »
Scenario 3 is that:

3. Jim is Town in a group chat with a deceased player (since nobody has come forward to support Jim). And BlackHeart is also Town.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 30, 2023, 04:01:47 pm »
Sorry I meant to say:

2. Jim is Town and not in a group chat.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 30, 2023, 04:00:37 pm »
We can reasonably surmise that Lenglon targeted Jim and BlackHeart last night and learned that one is in a groupchat and one is not in a groupchat.

We can deduce thus:

1. Jim is probably Mafia. BlackHeart isn't in a groupchat and probably Town (or third-party?).
2. Jim is Town and had a groupchat with a deceased player (because nobody has come forward to support Jim). BlackHeart is in a groupchat and probably scum.

Scenario 1 is completely possible. Jim being super shady with claiming the groupchat implies they don't feel comfortable talking about it, in other words they got caught red-handed. I also feel like they haven't really been helping us out here. Where are the big wall of text posts we usually get at like 3am during the game? I feel like I saw one on Day 1 and that's it.

Scenario 2 doesn't really make sense because Jim hasn't been pushing for BlackHeart hard even though he'd know BlackHeart was most likely in a groupchat and hasn't admitted to that fact at all.

I think there's a realistic chance Jim is scum here.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 30, 2023, 03:54:29 pm »
Quote from: Maximum Spin on December 30, 2023, 03:29:07 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on December 30, 2023, 03:24:56 pm
I guess I find BlackHeart the most suspicious between BlackHeart/Knightwing/Secretdorf, however it's almost definitely true that they aren't in a groupchat which means they can't be Mafia.
Are we really sure the Esteemed Jim is actually claiming to have a groupchat? I feel like he would definitely ambiguously imply it and then never bother to correct this, even as town. Because I would, and I feel like that's a good indicator.
If Jim isn't in a groupchat then they should be pushing for BlackHeart's elimination pretty hard as soon as that information came to light. I don't see that.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 30, 2023, 03:24:56 pm »
I guess I find BlackHeart the most suspicious between BlackHeart/Knightwing/Secretdorf, however it's almost definitely true that they aren't in a groupchat which means they can't be Mafia.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 30, 2023, 01:51:53 pm »
I've been pretty sick since last night. I don't think I can contribute anything else today.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 29, 2023, 11:10:52 pm »
I also believe that Lenglon's results make BlackHeart look good, since Jim has basically admitted they have a groupchat without confirming it.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 29, 2023, 10:56:30 pm »
In my opinion Lenglon being "copied" doesn't make any sense. Jim and BlackHeart (or Max or whoever) show the exact same signs as NQT/Sofanthiel on N1 and Crystal/Knightwing on N2. Another reason why Max is Max.

The important part is whoever is doing this merging is 100% scum. Same for the "bus", which is far less evident to me. I guess Jim said he stole NQT's vote by accident instead of Sofanthiel's at the start of D2 for some reason? He definitely sounded like he knew he was bussed, but was taken offguard by the double vote yoink. Sounds kind of strange to me.

@Imp:
Dude I get it. I'll kill Secretdorf if I have to, okay?

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 29, 2023, 10:44:05 pm »
@Imp:
Jim is implying he had a group chat with Webadict. I think Web joked about being masons with Jim (and Max) so.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 29, 2023, 10:41:59 pm »
@Hector:
I only bussed Imp and Webadict on N2. I protected Imp on N1 and N3.

Here are some possible speculations:

1. Max targeted Lenglon and copied the inspect onto...BlackHeart?
2. BlackHeart targeted Lenglon and copied the inspect onto...Max?
3. An unclaimed copier targeted Lenglon and copied the inspect onto...Max or BlackHeart?

In all of these scenarios, some unclaimed unknown party bussed Max and Jim...for some reason.

In addition, all of these scenarios don't really make sense if the copier is town because wouldn't they want to copy Imp's better inspect? Why copy Lenglon?

NQT and Sofanthiel were not just bussed on N1, they were definitely merged because Jim stole two votes. Plus NQT claims a kill on him and Sofanthiel died.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 29, 2023, 10:26:52 pm »
Max was The Double Abilitier all along, dun dun dun.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 29, 2023, 10:02:24 pm »
@Max:
This is why you were the only one affected by Hector's post restriction? At the very least, Jim and BlackHeart have not bothered to do this.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 29, 2023, 09:46:18 pm »
Quote from: Lenglon on December 29, 2023, 08:23:04 pm
Hector: I know at least one of those didn't target Max because I would have gotten the same result twice if they both hit the same person. Also, Max claims to be untargetable, though I have my doubts about that (said doubts are part of why it was worth making the attempt).
I think Max is just lying out their ass to look cool.

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