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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« on: January 19, 2022, 08:31:37 pm »
@Jack:
Quote from: EuchreJack on January 19, 2022, 05:55:47 pm
Regarding why Magma isn't looking like mafia!Magma:
In the one game where Magma was mafia (Newbie Mafia), Magma was town read the entire game.
In this one, Magma seems to have stirred up a hornets nest.
Ergo, not meta for mafia!Magma, although I would expect new strategies for new games.
It is enough that I would at least like to see the lynch of Magma re-evaluated.
I agree, I think this reasoning is correct.


@Webadict:
Quote from: webadict on January 19, 2022, 06:36:41 pm
Overall, I disagree with your assertions, and I think you're stretching a bit to try to make me scum. I kinda want to keep voting you, so I probably will, but I am unlikely to be able to justify voting you over someone else on Day 1.
Like who?


It's very unlikely I'll be awake for Day end. Every player needs to be voting soon with reasons why. Out of players currently being voted I'm not okay with Magma, but I'm okay with Toaster or Webadict.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« on: January 19, 2022, 05:05:31 pm »
Quote from: EuchreJack on January 19, 2022, 04:12:22 pm
Now that you mention it, ToonyMan should be able to confirm that much on Night 1.  Plus Toonyman can't kill anyone because they HAVE to confirm their inventor on Night 1.
Yep, that's the plan.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« on: January 19, 2022, 04:40:58 pm »
@Webadict:
Quote from: ToonyMan on January 19, 2022, 10:06:35 am
@Web:
You never answered me about why you're voting Magma.
Quote from: webadict on January 19, 2022, 10:19:07 am
Yeah, you're right. I definitely didn't.
Wow, cool.

Quote from: webadict on January 19, 2022, 12:41:23 pm
I was kinda hoping MM would reply sooner rather than later, so I'm ready to jump on a ToonyMan train if anyone else is, and I can reassess later.  Maybe it's because I feel like their claim is too close to Vector's role in Round 3, but they're getting too combative with EJ.

Is that a problem? Whatever. I'll think about it later.
Is this bait? You vote Magma for no reason and then noncommital vote me for bad reasons. This is very opportunistic.

Where is the town clearing Webadict of D1? Who's town?


@Jack:
Quote from: EuchreJack on January 19, 2022, 11:57:56 am
I WAS town in KWN until YOU made me Scum, although I had a side-win condition.  So I'd say I was Suburban.
Oh, I thought Mechromancer was third-party. My bad then.



@NJW:
Quote from: NJW2000 on January 19, 2022, 02:38:21 pm
Readslist, as much to help me as for other people.
I mostly agree with your reads, although I'm more null on Jim and believe Roden more.

My reads:

Town
Max - I feel good about their opening posts, have talked about it earlier
Magma - I think they're getting too much hate from more suspicious players (e.g. Webadict, Jim)
Roden - I believe their opening claim, and it feels like they're very willing to help.

Townlean
Jack - I think they're being honest which makes me want to town lean them, I don't believe mafia!Jack would vote me like they did

Null
Jim Groovester - null, I've seen Jim play exactly like this as not-town. their claims makes me want to townlean them more since it's super ballsy for mafia!Jim...

Scummy, willing to vote
NJW2000 - I have nothing solid but I don't like their behavior, although I think if Toaster is mafia then they're clean
Toaster - can't read, I believed their null miller claim countered NJW's, but that doesn't seem to be the case? I feel like they don't want to take strong stances but they haven't flagged all the scumtells on my secret list
webadict - no strong presence, I think both their votes have been really bad, what's up my guy?


PPE:
Quote from: EuchreJack on January 19, 2022, 04:20:16 pm
Since probably either NJW or Toaster is scum
Yeah, I agree this is possible.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« on: January 19, 2022, 10:06:35 am »
@Web:
You never answered me about why you're voting Magma.

Jim is voting Magma as a "snap judgement".
Max is voting Magma because they posted a meme gif.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« on: January 19, 2022, 09:58:55 am »
@Magma:
I don't think Roden was thinking about NJW at all when they claimed.

@NJW:
It doesn't seem like Toaster is actually a miller and Roden wants to believe you so I'll be rational here and unvote. I can't really believe a scenario where you're both mafia right now.

@Jack:
Shot down? I was mafia in Round 3 and didn't want to implicate myself with NJW. I truly believe my logic is reasonable, but I've decided it's too weak since Toaster and Roden have added more to the game.

How am I buddying you? I've done nothing to support you this game besides believe your role claim. You weren't actually town in KWN so clearly I don't have a black and white read of you anymore. I'm currently undecided but I will say I like your vote on me over every vote on Magma.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« on: January 18, 2022, 10:55:46 pm »
@Toaster:
Quote from: Toaster on January 18, 2022, 06:48:38 pm
You mean past me never loudly stating that I hate cult games?   I have a few ideas of my own, but sure, I'm game.
Fair enough. I did this with NQT (after being mafia with him) and it worked really well, so I will share my list I made if I feel you've struck all the points like he did in Magic Mafia. Unfortunately, I am not masons with 4mask this time so I have no one to share with in private in case of my demise...

Quote from: Toaster on January 18, 2022, 06:48:38 pm
Why does it have to be either/or?
You're right, that's my mistake. I didn't mean to phrase that as mandatory. If there's mafia inside NJW/Roden then I would vote NJW over Roden currently. Your null miller claim makes this even more interesting though. As now that's two claims I feel that jive against NJW.


@NJW:
Quote from: NJW2000 on January 18, 2022, 09:22:33 pm
In any case, the idea that a miller and a unreliable cop couldn't coexist in a FoU game shows a disappointing lack of imagination. Not sure how unreliable Roden is claiming, but if they're essentially just a visitor, the presence of a miller doesn't change the usefulness of their role, while their role does not preclude the presence of a miller.

tl;dr I didn't catch your read, but there's a faulty dichotomy here.
I would say yes, but Jack has convinced me otherwise.

1. At the start of Round 3 of this game Jack said me or you had a high chance of being mafia simply because we were the only ones who "hadn't had the chance yet", this turned out to be true as I was mafia.
2. This left you - NJW - as the only player to not "have the chance" to be mafia. Lo 'n behold you were mafia with Roden in Round 4. This is statistically unlikely. FoU is absolutely playing favorites with the players for setups. This also applies to what roles we receive as players.
3. Jack suspected me because they were a double voter in Totem Mafia 3, after I had claimed I was also a double voter. This was a correct reason to suspect me as I was mafia. I think you can very reasonably read a mod's setup as part of suspecting someone as this was not a FoU ran game, but shows that mods will do this in general.

Points one and two are about picking players for alignments which does not directly translate to my argument, however it's general support for "reading the mod". Point 3 applies directly to our situation here though. It's not a strong vote but I want to start at least somewhat reasonably.


@Webadict:
Quote from: webadict on January 18, 2022, 09:29:13 pm
@ToonyMan: What's so false about it? Why you gotta be like that? Who's are these strong players to look out for? Also, pick me someone scummy (that isn't me, plz.)
You always lie about your role.

I think you could make an argument that every player here is strong.

I think NJW is scummy. Though it's hard to find strong behavioral reasons currently besides "I don't like it".


PPE:
Quote from: Jim Groovester on January 18, 2022, 10:30:59 pm
Also my role name is Day 3 Innocent for those of you who were dying of anxiety about the name of my role.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« on: January 18, 2022, 05:05:08 pm »
Honestly this player list is pretty stacked. I feel there's a lot of strong players to watch out for here.


@NJW and Roden:
Quote from: NJW2000 on January 18, 2022, 04:50:10 am
This is going to be one of those weird games. Anyway, I'm a miller.
Quote from: Roden on January 18, 2022, 05:50:29 am
Quote from: NJW2000 on January 18, 2022, 04:50:10 am
This is going to be one of those weird games. Anyway, I'm a miller.
I believe this claim. My role is useless, I'm an Unreliable Cop.
Why would there be a miller if you're an unreliable cop?

I think it's more likely Roden is telling the truth here then NJW unless they're both in on it, although I find Roden believable here. Especially since NJW claimed first and Roden second. I got caught out pretty badly from claiming double voter first in a past game as mafia since I had no idea there would be another claim to "meta counter" it.


@Jack:
Quote from: EuchreJack on January 18, 2022, 06:15:31 am
I am a Neighborizer.  I can set up a private chat with other players.  Sorta like unreliable mason I guess?
Sounds true.


@Webadict:
Quote from: webadict on January 18, 2022, 06:51:45 am
Is this what we're doing? Aight I'm in: I'm a Motion Detector. Or maybe I'm not, who knows?
Sounds false.

Quote from: webadict on January 18, 2022, 10:33:04 am
Anyway, I'm gonna vote Magma Mater.
Why?


@Max and Magma:
Quote from: Magma Mater on January 18, 2022, 08:23:24 am
Quote from: Maximum Spin on January 18, 2022, 08:14:47 am
I am town, and my role is useful, and I am not claiming.

EuchreJack, please subscribe me to your mailing list. I do not have a private chat and I want one.
At least throw a fakeclaim out.

I, on the other hand, will claim my 100% real role as Ninja Fruit Vendor.
There's certain roles I could see Max not wanting to share, but also there's certain roles I could see Max not wanting to share if that makes sense. Sometimes you want to paint a target on your back at night...a fakeclaim would avoid the attention all together, why would Max not choose to do that instead? I think this makes Max look good.

Even though you mention fakeclaims I think you're telling the truth about your role Magma.


@Jim:
Rejoice! RVS is not meta in this game! Instead it's mass-claiming at the start of D1.

I think this has helped more than hindered, do you agree?


@Toaster:
Thankfully, there's a 0% chance you can get converted in this game.

I think I know your scum tells pretty well now after playing with you in KWN, scared? Want to know what they are?

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« on: January 18, 2022, 09:22:46 am »
Quote from: webadict on January 18, 2022, 05:42:42 am
ToonyMan, you Town? Are you able to read me yet?
Yes. No.

I'm busy at work currently to get anything started, in the meantime I can join the claim gang:

My 100% real role is Inventor, though my goods may be defective...

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Mafia / Re: Dead Webadict Now: Game Over
« on: January 13, 2022, 06:26:10 pm »
Quote from: ToonyMan on January 12, 2022, 05:48:16 pm
I don't mind sharing after this is over.
I guess I can share now.

My reads:

Toaster:
It's unfortunate that Toaster forgot to submit an action. I predicted that their best course of action would be to defend themselves with 12 bullets, as this would always beat one of us from shooting him. And Toaster was the most likely to be shot at, so this would guarantee their survival and leave them with 1 bullet left still. This action would only lose to nobody shooting at Toaster. Toaster died because they Sustained, but I'm not sure if anyone actually shot at him.

Egan:
I didn't think they were going to shoot anyone. Didn't matter what they did. I assume they died because they defended themselves with a number of bullets and were not shot at by anybody.

Vector:
I felt that Vector was the most likely to shoot a player, and as long as that player wasn't me then I could likely survive the round. I thought it would be very unlikely we would go to a Round 3 so I fired E L E V E N bullets at Vector so that I would have one bullet left if a Round 2 happened. Defending myself with any bullets was asking for me to die because it was likely nobody would shoot me, but I also had to use enough bullets to make me confident I wouldn't die to a defending player. Vector would kill me if they defended with 11 or 12 bullets, which I thought was possible but still the best course of action for me to take. I don't know what Vector actually did but it wasn't that.

In conclusion:
Quote from: webadict on January 12, 2022, 09:45:50 pm
all

want

Tune

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Mafia / Re: Dead Webadict Now: Game Over
« on: January 12, 2022, 10:22:30 pm »

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Mafia / Re: Kill The Other Webadicts Now - You Are The Only Webadict
« on: January 12, 2022, 05:48:16 pm »
Okay, fine.

My brain power can only go so far. I've already died once anyway.

*checks ammo*

I would describe how I think everybody is going to play this, but I don't want to influence anyone's decisions that far. I don't mind sharing after this is over. If this is over. Is it over?

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Mafia / Re: Kill The Other Webadicts Now - You Are The Only Webadict
« on: January 11, 2022, 08:35:49 pm »
Quote from: webadict on January 11, 2022, 05:32:51 pm
Do you think this is a puzzle? That you can Win together? You cannot. While you may all be winners, only one of you will be the Winner. That is all there is to say.

Say it in blue.

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Mafia / Re: Kill The Other Webadicts Now - You Are The Only Webadict
« on: January 11, 2022, 05:23:43 pm »
Quote from: webadict on January 11, 2022, 03:42:03 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on January 11, 2022, 11:45:52 am
Quote from: webadict on January 10, 2022, 11:42:19 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on January 10, 2022, 11:23:44 pm
@Mod:
Can we shoot and defend with bullets on the same round? How many Players are valid targets?
Yes you may! As many Players as you'd like!
It's hard to follow, who are the Players I can shoot?
If you wanna shoot dead Players, who am I to stop you? Shoot anyone you want. Shoot me, even! The rules stay the same. There are only four living Players, them being Egan_BW, Toaster, ToonyMan, and Vector.
Who are you? It says we can only shoot Players though.

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Mafia / Re: Kill The Other Webadicts Now - You Are The Only Webadict
« on: January 11, 2022, 11:45:52 am »
Quote from: webadict on January 10, 2022, 11:42:19 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on January 10, 2022, 11:23:44 pm
@Mod:
Can we shoot and defend with bullets on the same round? How many Players are valid targets?
Yes you may! As many Players as you'd like!
It's hard to follow, who are the Players I can shoot?

Quote from: Toaster on January 11, 2022, 09:23:04 am
Okay, gang, is there a way out of this one or are we going to have to play it straight?  See D1; my first instinct is "everyone wins" but if that's off the table we should just play it straight.

Thoughts?
What would have happened if the Webadict won the Game and not a multiple Player faction?

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Mafia / Re: Kill The Other Webadicts Now - You Are The Only Webadict
« on: January 10, 2022, 11:23:44 pm »
Oh yeah I can say this now:

I was converted to Pro-Webadict when Egan targeted Vector on N1. Me and Vector were Anti-Webadict at the start of the game and thus town, but only for D1 unfortunately.

Egan, I can't believe you not only outed yourself on D1, but also converted who you said you would! And it gets better, on your actual death you resurrected the town player TolyK! I can't believe you actually res'd TolyK, what was the thought process there? I could at least see the mind games of "maybe I didn't actually convert the masons", but I don't think it was a good idea to claim cult leader on D1 nor to resurrect a non-cult player. It made things harder for us. I still feel bad for town - having been town - but it's frustrating.

@Mod:
Can we shoot and defend with bullets on the same round? How many Players are valid targets?

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