Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Messages - ToonyMan

Pages: 1 ... 169 170 [171] 172 173 ... 1978
2551
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Night 3
« on: December 30, 2021, 12:36:36 am »
@Toaster:
I don't fully agree with this. I think Jack is being honest that they didn't expect FoU to hammer. I also don't see much synergy between Jack and FoU. I'm almost certain Jack is town based on their game start behavior and solo bumbling.

@Jack:
This game is odd for me because I have a huge amount of info and people to bounce off with in the mason chat as well as the dead chat. I don't think I've ever had this much access to a game before it feels like. I hope I'm not forgetting to mention things in public too much, because my game sense has felt extremely high.

2552
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Night 3
« on: December 29, 2021, 11:52:39 pm »
I gave my thoughts and recommendations Jack. I encourged a Max vote over TolyK and I still do. I strongly recommend voting FoU or Max tomorrow after they try to kill me tonight. I think Superdorf is still super town.

I can relay some Dead Chat info after I go to sleep and get on a computer.

2553
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 29, 2021, 12:55:19 pm »
@FoU:
Who do you think stole Tric's Sprint Hat on D1? Your insight might be valuable here.

2554
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 29, 2021, 12:49:56 pm »
I have not stolen items from TricMagic, nya.
Okay.

Knightwing, want to confirm that statement?

At this point, I'm considering voting between TolyK, Maximum Spin, and Roden. Objections?
Even though most of you can't vote, the opinions of the majority still matter, so I would ask everyone to vote in Purple as if you could vote.
Try to do so at least a couple hours before end of day, so Fallacy and I can make our decision taking into consideration everyone's opinion.
You could even put extra pressure on us by listing whom you DON'T want us to vote in Green. We'll assume you don't want yourself to be voted, so please chose someone else instead of yourself, if this is an option you would like to use.
I'll forgo the colors here:

If I had a vote:
I would be voting FoU or Max right now. Egan or Roden is a distant tied third.
I would not vote Knightwing, Superdorf, Jack, Vector-Toaster, or the Figments today.

Between TolyK, Max, and Roden I would prefer Max the most and TolyK the least. I don't object to this.

I can see your argument for town!FoU, and it is possible. Their claim of "copying" people's actions during the day is also possible currently. This is foreign territory if you are correct, however I find it hard to believe with how badly FoU has pushed for my death this entire game. Unless they're being outwitted by mafia, which I have to see as a possibility. Although I feel a lot of it is their own fault...

2555
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 29, 2021, 01:01:11 am »
Welcome :)
I guess you have no reason not to troll at this point. It's like NQT in Magic Mafia.

@Jack and FoU:
You need to determine what to prioritize here. Is it Egan and their possible convert? Or is it Jim's killer? I think those are the top two priorities we are aware of. I'm open to either.

So Fallacy, which do you prefer as a priority? I'm also open to either.
FoU also needs to answer the Tric question since I think that would be a good way to gain or lose trust in them. Knightwing should be able to confirm if they're lying, unless somebody has a better statement to use.

2556
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 28, 2021, 08:42:55 pm »
Somebody gave me an item that could be useful. Thanks...whoever did that.

2557
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 28, 2021, 07:50:54 pm »
@Jack and FoU:
You need to determine what to prioritize here. Is it Egan and their possible convert? Or is it Jim's killer? I think those are the top two priorities we are aware of. I'm open to either.

2558
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 28, 2021, 07:45:08 pm »
@Toonyman: SEA CUCUMBER
You are tunneling Fallacy.  You should have known the crown was one-time use.  That means Fallacy is really putting himself out there by using it.
There is a remote possibility that he is mafia that KNEW he was gonna get voted today, DESPITE all the desire to relynch Egan_BW or lynch Max, and that my vote remaining was the plan backfiring.  I'm not really convinced of that, but I'll remain my usual paranoid.  Mostly Fallacy's Up-and-center play is that of townie.  Look AROUND Fallacy.  Who put Fallacy as mafia into our heads?  Was it YOU?  Probably not, as you were most likely the townie that fell victim to the mind games of the mafia.
Maybe FoU needs to start attacking me with good reasons instead.

2559
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 28, 2021, 07:41:23 pm »
@FoU:
Unless of course he’s a necrocult leader.
*facepalm*

See above. Everyone was missing stuff at game start.
This is true. I also got a Victim Report during N1 with some stuff.

However, you being the item stealer during the Day matches well. You took what Jim had today and I'm speculating that you took from Tric during the previous day.

I think it doesn’t make sense for you to have unlimited night resurrections and a one-shot day resurrection as town without there being a catch. Maybe your death miller claim is intended to protect Vector if you die first. Or maybe this is a two-cult game and Jim will loyally serve you once he’s back. It makes sense that Vector’s role is the mason under that paradigm - they would link up to you and gain your alignment.
What can I say?

I will say that my unlimited night resurrections isn't as good as it sounds, but I can't prove that right now.

You are not as provably town as you think you are, unfortunately.
Correct. A much better argument is that I was Egan's convert target last night. I was 99% town on Day 1. You're an idiot if you thought otherwise. Want to try again?

You could always claim the intricacies and drawbacks of your resurrection if you want to convince me?
Fine. The night resurrection should only work for one Cycle. Happy? Erebos should go away after tonight, which is why it's unfortunate that the Figments are AWOL. I suppose this makes me a less desirable mafiakill target, but I don't mind sharing if it helps un...blind you. Argue that I'm a convert, not mafia! I will never accept a mafia argument.

Your supposed deadchat access isn’t provable either.
If I bring back Jim or Tric for tomorrow it will be. Which I plan on doing.

-What was the intent of that day one play at the start of the day where you (Toony) tried to make himself look Pro-Webadict?
Why not? It potentially caught scum (you) and I have a mason partner that can back me up.

-Do you have an investigation result to justify that unusual case on Max, like I suspect?
You got me. I am also a cop. I revived Erebos and copped Max on the same night. My days are shrinking as we speak.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Why did you decide to take that gambit at the time? You can’t retroactively justify it.
Because I thought it would be fun? Again, you cannot argue I wasn't town on D1. Any line that pushes for this I will reject completely because it is wrong.

I really want you to be Anti-Webadict, but you’re just not acting internally consistent at all. The revives don’t make sense as town. You’re not justifying any of your actions. You’re just not trustworthy and not giving me any reason not to vote you.
I will be AMAZED if you're town, so. I have been as upfront and honest this entire game. There hasn't been an ounce of sincerity out of you. Get your catnip out of your ears and seriously think if you're town. I'm giving you a break here. Jim, myself, or the Toaster/Vector pair are delicious conversion targets for Egan. Was one of us converted? Who? Me and Vector are not mafia. It's possible one of us was converted. Convince me on that point and I will listen. Your insane crack theories mean nothing. They are nothing.

If the ability had been stolen on Day 1, it wouldn’t have roleflipped when he died, as it would have been removed from his role.

Jim is informing me in deadchat that his Crown ability he has was missing from the start of the game. He was only informed of it last night. When did you steal this ability FoU?
Furthermore, that’s not even what Toony claims Jim said.

Toony claims Jim said it was missing from the start, not that it was stolen.
I'm guessing Jim received the Crown ability in their Victim Report last night. It can only have been stolen after that point presumably. So yes, FoU most likely took Jim's ability during today. I believe this aligns perfectly with Tric losing their Sprint Hat during D1. It's very likely the Anti-Anti-Webadicts stole Tric's Hat. Therefore, the Anti-Anti-Webadicts had at least two actions to work with last night if there's only one of them, which is possible. If there's only one they would need some form of protection, say, just in case they were shot at by Knightwing/Helia.

@FoU: answer my question:
@Fallacy:
Are you the one that has been stealing Tric's hats? Be honest now.



@TolyK:
Yes, anyone targeting Jim got damaged this night. And unless there's really unusual trickery, I'm pretty sure you're the only two entities that visited Jim.

Which is why I think it's between Maximum Spin, Superdorf and Jim dying due to his action.
This is a reasonable conclusion.

2560
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 28, 2021, 05:28:31 pm »
Reminder that it takes 12 damage to kill, apparently.
webadict confirmed this in the Dead Chat for Tric. We should be able to confirm it in-thread too.

@Mod:
How much damage to kill someone?

It's a bit spooky how none of the Figments are talking today...

2561
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 28, 2021, 05:20:51 pm »
@Max:
Don't worry. This day is now controlled by Jack and FoU. But I would prefer a FoU lynch over a Max one currently if Egan isn't a priority.
If Fallacy can be convinced to vote himself I am right there with you.

... it's worth a try, honestly. Does anyone want to offer to put on cat ears or something in exchange?
Unfortunately, FoU wouldn't make himself King to vote themselves.

Jim is encouraging Jack to not let FoU have their choice of lynch.

1. I wouldn't get mod-confirmation if somebody else in the mason chat got converted, but right now I would know if Toaster got converted because we're sharing a body. We (VectorToaster) weren't converted. I haven't seen anything particularly sus from Toony.
Okay, so this confirms that Toaster/Vector could possibly be converted now. Although I can confirm we still share the mason chat. I still would much prefer an Egan lynch over my mason partner(s) if it comes to dealing with the cult.

2562
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 28, 2021, 05:04:53 pm »
@Fallacy:
Are you the one that has been stealing Tric's hats? Be honest now.

@Max:
Don't worry. This day is now controlled by Jack and FoU. But I would prefer a FoU lynch over a Max one currently if Egan isn't a priority.

2563
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 28, 2021, 04:48:39 pm »
While this could indicate that you're scum - now I'm imagining that you, Vector, and Toaster are the Anti-Antis, that doesn't necessarily have to follow from your argument's appearance. Because an alternative possibility is that you have investigative information you're working backwards from, while trying not to reveal you or your squad has such a power.

Is that the case?
Look. I'm either mafia with Vector who thought it would be a good idea to out ourselves because FoU's amazing play caught me D1, or I'm a mason with Vector and we're both town. I still have no idea why you're so suspicious of me and it pisses me off. I literally cannot be mafia unless the mafia team was me/Vector at the start of the game, which the real mafia know isn't true. I also have powerful resurrection and healing abilities that mafia would love to kill me for having, during the day via lynch would be even better than at night. Jim makes sense as a N1/N2 mafiakill target as Egan was likely to try to convert them or one of the masons, however it appears to have backfired hard. It's very likely either me or the Vector/Toaster pair will be targeted next, but it would also be in mafia's interest to get one of us lynched today.

So what am I? Am I what I say I am? A doctor-type Phoenix Mage role that has been mason-paired with Vector because of their abilities? Or would I expose the entire mafia team on D1 because I was "caught" by problem sleuth FoU? You have to decide whether mafia!Toony would do that. You cannot argue anything unless you think Vector/Toaster is mafia with me, which they aren't.

*a small bird lands on Toony's shoulder and speaks into his ear*

Jim is informing me in deadchat that his Crown ability he has was missing from the start of the game. He was only informed of it last night. When did you steal this ability FoU?

Some other things:
1. Jim had no night abilities.
2. The way he died was unknown, however his soul also turned into a robot. It's likely these were distinct actions targeted against him.
3. The Summon Meteors he casted on D1 says that if five meteors are summoned all players not aligned with the casting player die.
4. He regrets not lynching FoU on D1.

Toastvectortoon:
-Why on earth do you have a one-shot day revive and a non-shotted night revive that appear to do the exact same thing?
This game seems very power heavy, I would say this is reasonable to me. If mafia actually want to kill me this time then give it your best shot. I'm sure I wouldn't rise from the ashes or anything. Oh, and if you kill my mason buddies? I'll bring them back. Your choice. Right now I'm more inclined to res Jim over Tric during the night, sorry Tric.

-What was the intent of that day one play at the start of the day where you (Toony) tried to make himself look Pro-Webadict?
Why not? It potentially caught scum (you) and I have a mason partner that can back me up.

-Do you have an investigation result to justify that unusual case on Max, like I suspect?
You got me. I am also a cop. I revived Erebos and copped Max on the same night. My days are shrinking as we speak.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

2564
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 28, 2021, 02:16:28 pm »
Toony...both Anti-Anti-Webadict and Anti-Webadict factions have eliminating Pro-Webadict as part of their wincon. How is it that you didn't know this?
I do know this.

Anyway: Egan is outed scum. Any vigs available to take them out? Roden? Anyone?
If we believe Egan is already gone today, then I want to vote the person most likely to have killed Jim last...night, or the night before.

Who killed Jim?

It wasn't Jim.
It wasn't me.
It wasn't Vector-Toaster.
It wasn't TricMagic.
It wasn't Erebos.

It probably wasn't Egan.

Was it Roden? - Possible, though they claimed they were an Anti-Anti-Webadict Ally until today.
Was it Max? - Possible.
Was it Jack? - Possible, though I think they're town.
Was it FoU? - Possible.
Was it Knightwing? - Unlikely, this means Anti-Anti-Webadict don't have a kill.
Was it Superdorf? - Possible, though I think they're town.
Was it TolyK? - Possible.
Was it Helia? - Unlikely, this means Anti-Anti-Webadict don't have a kill.

In my opinion, Jim's killer is inside Max/FoU/TolyK. However, TolyK and Max are mutually exclusive. TolyK also looks the best to me here out of the three.

I don't believe Roden would out themselves like this today if they killed Jim.
I don't believe Jack or Superdorf are mafia.
I don't believe Knightwing and Helia killed Jim, which Fallacy has been pushing.

Lastly, Superdorf claims they targeted Jim last night and took 1 point of damage.

Someone else took 1 point of damage last night. Was it because they targeted Jim? Why haven't they claimed their action like Superdorf?

Did you kill Jim...

Max??

2565
Mafia / Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 3
« on: December 27, 2021, 02:07:29 pm »
Toony: Would you know if your conglomerate-compatriot switched alignments on you?
I believe so. I haven't received anything to that effect though.

@Toonyman: Why are we voting Egan if Egan is already dead? Or do you not believe Egan to actually be dead?
Have a better option? I don't know if Egan is actually already dead or not, but it makes sense for a converter to have a form of protection.

If I believe Egan is already dead, I am willing to vote someone if I'm strongly confident they're the ones who have been stealing from Tric and/or who killed Jim. The Egan convert would be the next priority, as with Egan already being dead that's the biggest problem of the cult dealt with. But this means we believe Egan...who doesn't have a reason to be honest.

Also I'm confused. If your revive is a one-shot, how did you revive Erebos?
My night version isn't one-shot. It also has some drawbacks...



Tric thinks Hat Kid probably has the Dwellers Mask if they're still alive. His Dwellers Mask wasn't in his roleflip so somebody else has it.

@Hat Kid:
Are you around? What masks you got?

Tric is suspicious of Superdorf for asking if the Brewing Mask is one-shot here. Answer: It's not one-shot. I assume Tric suspects Superdorf here because Superdorf would be inclined to ask this question if he was interested in pilfering it off Tric's corpse.

Pages: 1 ... 169 170 [171] 172 173 ... 1978