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Yes you can include me, like I said before.

You can go ahead and cross-examine me toony, but you'll find no inconstancies.

Who should I vote instead and why?

I'm not having a very good day today...

Knightwing's correction makes me feel better about Roden. I think I can believe Web and Roden here. Web said he's been clearly townies and I really feel like he has. I don't have any strong case against Roden. I also think Knightwing and Vector are town.

@Roden:
I believe you. Knightwing's mistake made me think you got caught out flatfooted, but that doesn't seem to be the case after reevaluating. Web is correct that your motives and actions are reasonable. Another thing mafia!Web wouldn't have to do.

I didn't "prove" Useless's claim is wrong. It's possible that mafia really did fuck with them last night. I find them odd and I'm not sure I can believe them, but their motives and actions have been consistent.  Their role is extremely townie if they can prove it which is why I backed off after voting them at the start of the day.

I'm not ignoring them. I've sent them replies - like this one here - but they haven't really responded or posted anymore this day.

You can refrain from sharing your other ability then. I will as well.

@Jack:
I can't counter a mechanical analysis argument. If you and Web think I'm mafia because we're both double voters then there's nothing I can say to that except that I'm not lying. Like I said before that's a fair suspicion. I think you've been playing as town!Jack this game, but I'm not as confident anymore. I don't want to pull the mechanical meta card because there's no counter play. We could just cross vote each other and see if we're right, but I want to value my personal reads over meta.

For example, you could be lying about being a double voter. There's nothing that supports it currently. Same goes for me. You claimed your double vote right after I did, which could be a way to push for my lynch as a reasonable option. And if you succeed and I flip town there's enough vagueness to the setup to get away with it as a defense.

In addition, you were happy to join the 4mask wagon with Roden and Tric. I was a part of this wagon as well and I accept my fault in that. You've attacked Roden and me today after meeting resistance from Web on D1. You've also won Web over. I can only blame myself for this by wishing not to engage heavily with him. I've observed him this game as opposed to bashing my head against him, and I think the payoff has backfired. As now I feel good about him, but he thinks I'm too townie to be town.

@Tric:
Webadict is probably town. You were on the 4mask wagon. Max was likely going to inspect you or Useless last night. You claim to have targeted Max. Role cop has historically been a mafia claim and role (like when I was mafia in MVM3R3). You've gone after me, Roden, and Useless today as well.

I suspect it's Tric/Jack or Tric/Useless.

@Useless:
Where are you? Who are you going to target tonight?

Thanks for the heads up Knightwing. I'm home now but I'm doing stuff with someone first. I'll take this into consideration today.

I can double vote, once. It's activated during the day I want to use it. I haven't used it yet. I don't wish to share my other ability but Tric can confirm it tomorrow.

Mechanically, I don't believe three town players would all have self protection. This makes Max, Knightwing, and Jack who have or claim some kind of self protection.

Fine, my reluctance to spam 100 posts arguing with Web again just to probably be wrong again is not something I want to do, at least not at work. Maybe not getting mad has been a mistake, because I still don't feel a sense of clarity at all.

I don't get it, this is wrong. Everything is wrong here. Web and Roden's PoE means Tric is solo scum or partners with Useless, but even Web himself doesn't seem to believe that.

Web thinks Roden's accusation of me makes him legit, but I still think it's super scummy. It's a speech meant to sway emotions to his side and saying I'm ignoring Useless when that's completely untrue.

Is Tric and Useless just the mafia team? Maybe, but like I explained before they can both confirm their actions tonight. They both seem quite confident they can do so!

The big difference between my PoE and Web's is that Web has Roden on his clear list, but I don't get it. I can agree with Knightwing, Jack, and Vector, but I STILL don't get the Roden pick.