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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 11:28:44 pm »
Some pretty easy things to for me to judge here looking at mechanical info and behavior:

1. Vector is very likely town. There is an unknown malicious action that targeted them according to NJW, who I believe.
2. NJW is very likely town.  Their action is very confirmable and it wouldn't seem fair to have a voyeur that also primes someone. NJW continues the trend of getting incredibly useful N1 results.
3. Roden is likely town. If they wanted to frame me as mafia they wouldn't claim to delay me to give me an out. Does not make sense.

This leaves Web, Jack, and Max.

Web's Prodigious study is suspicious but nothing clear cut.
Jack's inspect is possibly suspicious.
Everything about Max is suspicious, but it honestly feels like poor timing to me. I really feel like they could have claimed earlier if they were able to, like before NJW.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 11:20:47 pm »
Web's Prodigious Study will likely work on NJW, Jack, and maybe Max depending on what they have.

It shouldn't work on myself, Roden, or Vector.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 11:18:38 pm »
N1 claims (in order):

I claim nothing, having no night-action.

NJW claims seeing three things target Vector.
1. Inspected - Confirmed by Jack
2. Prodigious study - Confirmed by Web
3. Primed - Nobody has confirmed

Webadict claims they used "Prodigious study" on Vector.

Roden claims they delayed me.

Max claims they tracked Jack and they targeted Vector. They also mention a bit earlier they know someone who targeted Vector, although their timing is unfortunate as the only people who haven't claimed yet are Vector and Jack.

Jack claims they "inspected" Vector.

Vector claims they protected NJW.

Nobody died, however NJW claims Vector was primed which nobody has admitted so we can infer that was the mafia factional action. A kill was likely not even attempted last night. This goes along with FoU giving mafia strange ways to kill the last few rounds.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 10:59:26 pm »
Quote from: EuchreJack on November 10, 2021, 09:27:38 pm
I can confirm that an action was performed on Vector.
What do you mean?

Quote from: Vector on November 10, 2021, 10:33:42 pm
Hi, I'm a 1-shot poison doc. I protected NJW last night. I was not poisoned.
Did anything else happen to you? Can you confirm you were primed?

Quote from: webadict on November 10, 2021, 10:51:17 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on November 10, 2021, 10:44:42 pm
There are no third parties in this setup, unless you mean a mafia ally which is not very accurate. FoU has stated the only possible alignments will be town, mafia, and mally.
Ahhhhh, maaaaan. That would've been a cool setup.

Oh well, then it's a two-man prime-timer, with ToonyMan and Roden/EuchreJack. But ToonyMan is definitely in there.
Bzzz, wrong. Try again idiot.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 10:44:42 pm »
There are no third parties in this setup, unless you mean a mafia ally which is not very accurate. FoU has stated the only possible alignments will be town, mafia, and mally.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 08:24:42 pm »
In a scenario where Roden and Max are the mafia:

1. Roden is probably being truthful in delaying me.
2. Max actually primes Vector, which NJW spots.

Jack needs to confirm that they inspected Vector and everything here works. If I'm willing to trust Web then we should be able to mutually agree on voting Roden, however I want to be sure first by going through the thread again.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 08:03:53 pm »
If I clear NJW and Web:

I don't believe Jack could be mafia unless Web is their partner. Jack does not make sense with anyone else to me.
Vector should be town here since they appear to be the mafia target.
That leaves Roden and Max.
But I think Roden is probably town, but he can't be here. The mafia become Roden and Max.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 07:56:13 pm »
Quote from: Roden on November 10, 2021, 07:25:20 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on November 10, 2021, 07:08:43 pm
Quote from: Maximum Spin on November 10, 2021, 06:41:06 pm
Quote from: Roden on November 10, 2021, 06:37:04 pm
It's typically assumed that if you can kill and you're not mafia, then you're either a Vig or 3P. So what are you admitting to here?
Being a certain kind of a JOAT, actually. It's a Fallacy setup, what're you expecting?

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Also I don't believe that you know someone who visited Vector. There's nobody left who could. I Delayed Toony, so both of us are accounted for. NJW claimed Voyeur, Web claimed Study, and Vector likely didn't self-Prime. So either you or Jack is the Inspect, and Jack soft claimed Watcher yesterday. Everyone is accounted for except you. Unless NJW and Web are covering for each other, you're the Primer. Unless Jack denies visiting Vector, this is just confirmed.
All right, since you're already most of the way there, I'll admit that I tracked Jack and saw that he visited Vector.
Cool. This means either Max is telling the truth and Jack is the primer. Or that Max is lying to get Jack mislynched...except Max is a deadman if Jack flips town so lying like this isn't worth the trade.

Got anything to say to that Jack? Web is your partner isn't he?
Quote from: ToonyMan on November 10, 2021, 07:09:53 pm
Oh sorry, Max wouldn't be targeting Vector in this case...

Still, Max is not as suspicious as Web or Jack in this scenario.
For this to be true then NJW is lying about the Inspect visit...except NJW can only lie in this scenario if he's paired with Web. But Max is also claiming Jack visited Vector. This thought process doesn't make sense.
You are correct. I can't see a way NJW or Web is mafia currently unless Web is some weirdass two-action role so I need to reevaluate what's going on.

I'm not fighting you back because there's no reason to. I believe you're a delayer like you claim. I believe you targeted me last night. I believe you think I'm mafia genuinely and honestly after I deceived you last round. In fact, your actions last night have benefited me greatly as I have no way to "clear" myself since I lack a night-action.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 07:24:20 pm »
Quote from: webadict on November 10, 2021, 06:53:06 pm
I'm actually going to take a wild guess and say that ToonyMan probably DOES have a Vengeful role but that he's also Mafia, so he can break a 5p lylo in his favor. That'll be why he'll be pushing for an execution Today on EuchreJack.

Of course, me saying this might make me look suspicious, but that's how I perpetually role, isn't it?
Oh ho, so you do believe my role-claim? I find it hard to believe town!Webadict would believe me...mafia!Webadict on the other hand knows I'm telling the truth.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 07:09:53 pm »
Oh sorry, Max wouldn't be targeting Vector in this case...

Still, Max is not as suspicious as Web or Jack in this scenario.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 07:08:43 pm »
Quote from: Maximum Spin on November 10, 2021, 06:41:06 pm
Quote from: Roden on November 10, 2021, 06:37:04 pm
It's typically assumed that if you can kill and you're not mafia, then you're either a Vig or 3P. So what are you admitting to here?
Being a certain kind of a JOAT, actually. It's a Fallacy setup, what're you expecting?

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Also I don't believe that you know someone who visited Vector. There's nobody left who could. I Delayed Toony, so both of us are accounted for. NJW claimed Voyeur, Web claimed Study, and Vector likely didn't self-Prime. So either you or Jack is the Inspect, and Jack soft claimed Watcher yesterday. Everyone is accounted for except you. Unless NJW and Web are covering for each other, you're the Primer. Unless Jack denies visiting Vector, this is just confirmed.
All right, since you're already most of the way there, I'll admit that I tracked Jack and saw that he visited Vector.
Cool. This means either Max is telling the truth and Jack is the primer. Or that Max is lying to get Jack mislynched...except Max is a deadman if Jack flips town so lying like this isn't worth the trade.

Got anything to say to that Jack? Web is your partner isn't he?

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 05:42:02 pm »
Quote from: webadict on November 10, 2021, 05:20:42 pm
@Toony: So, one question for you to claim WIFOM over or whatever you wanna do because you're apparently 100% on me being scum because you probably want an excuse to go after NJW Tomorrow when I flip Town: Do you think I used Prodigious Study last Night? If I did, why did I target Vector?
I think you did, yes. You would have to be making a play with NJW otherwise which seems extremely unlikely. I don't really understand Prodigious Study as it would be useless for mafia to have it if NJW is telling the truth about how it works, which he should be if you're mafia.

...Okay, fine. Unvote for now while I sort this. Let me try to look at this under the assumption NJW and Web are both town. I strongly believe at least one of you is town.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 05:34:51 pm »
Did Max ever hardclaim vig? I think that was just a play/speculating. Otherwise Max is probably lying, but I don't think that makes them mafia just because of that.

Vector is speculating about the poison and hasn't answered my question from D1.

NJW is probably telling the truth that the mafia have a prime/arson for this game.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 05:31:28 pm »
Quote from: Roden on November 10, 2021, 05:09:57 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on November 10, 2021, 02:29:44 pm
Quote from: Roden on November 09, 2021, 02:04:10 am
I'd prefer not to get Vig'd but the choice is ultimately yours Max. I won't Delay you so don't worry about that being an issue.

If I had to pick it would be Toony or Web. It's too late to get into it more, but Toony's and Web's initial insistence that they could read other when last round Toony NK'd Web due to misreading him as town is giving me massive cognitive dissonance.
I was scum when I said that. I was making up stuff to try to appease Vector.

I can't read Web currently, he could be town but I kind of doubt it if NJW is town.
But Day 1 of this round, you both said you could read each other.

Quote from: ToonyMan on November 07, 2021, 01:48:41 pm
@Webadict:
Quote from: webadict on November 07, 2021, 08:53:18 am
Quote from: Roden on November 07, 2021, 08:18:35 am
I did originally want to poke Tric but I'm fine seeing how Toony reacts to pressure.
Nah, the right play here is that ToonyMan is actually Town. ToonyMan is so Town that I plan to pocket him without ever engaging with him. Thus, my play has begun. MUAHAHAHA!
My savior is here. Dude this shit is so easy, Webadict is town. Boom only six people left to choose from.

...As I was saying, people just assume I'm town on D1. Webadict especially likes to do this.
I wasn't being serious when I called Webadict town there at the start of the day. I put in the acronym tag that Web likes to call me locktown as town and mafia.

Quote from: Roden on November 10, 2021, 05:09:57 pm
Btw, I Delayed you Toony. If nobody comes forward as being Poisoned, we're gonna have a major problem.
Excellent. I can't confirm you did this, but I believe you did. If nobody claims the prime on Vector then it's likely neither me or Roden did it.

Of course, if this becomes true for everyone then Webadict will have to admit the mafia are masking their primer somehow.

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Mafia / Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R4, Day 2): For All Ticks And Tocks There Will Be A Lock
« on: November 10, 2021, 05:01:04 pm »
If I am correct that Web is mafia then right now my feelings are, from most likely to least likely:

Web/Jack - this is the most convincing case to me

Web/Max - possible, need to check
Web/Roden - possible, don't think is as likely as two above

Web/Vector - unlikely if NJW is telling the truth
Web/NJW - unlikely due to their shitfit on D1

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