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Quote from: ToonyMan on December 26, 2023, 05:17:10 pm

@Imp:
NQT tracked Elephant Parade on N1. They basically stated this at the start and then confirmed their result after EP claimed I believe. I think their claim is...probably true? So I'm not sure who roleblocked Webadict on N1. Max said something like Canadian Kitten and Webadict were roleblocked by the same thing while we know now you were blocked by BlackHeart.

Check Egan's roleflip.

Everyone who investigated sofanthiel or Egan on night 1 was roleblocked by the kill.

That's right. Egan must have used Broken DOOR to try to kill NQT (thought they were a Pirate?), but ended up hitting Sofanthiel instead. This is very amusing if Sofanthiel is Mafia because it means they're partners with Egan and hit each other.

I think this is worth mentioned again: Nobody has claimed the NQT/Sofanthiel bus on N1, correct? It was not me. It was most likely not Egan's Mafia team. This leaves the bus as an unclaimed action that Mafia didn't perform. I think this is further reasoning to suspect additional scum teams or at least malicious parties.

@Imp:
Webadict probably has inspection results from N2 in the dead chat. I recommend thinking who Webadict would have inspected.

@BlackHeart:
I think Imp is firmly town. I would place more suspicion on players that think there's only one scum team (Max) and less suspicion on players that think there's multiple scum teams (Lenglon).

@NQT:
What do you mean by webbing? Is that the flavor of your roleblock?

PPE:

Before hammer, could the Esteemed notquitethere and the Esteemed BlackHeartKabal discuss this web thing?  As a sort of stand in for the Esteemed Webadict, maybe this is a clue I should ask for more information about.

Yes, I'm thinking the same thing.

I will most likely protect Imp.

Okay I'll do something else sneaky then, probably maybe.

There's more this doctor of Death can do.

I guess Webadict stated who they planned to inspect so Imp doing the same is fine. Since they're definitely going to target that one person.

@Imp:
Can you explain specifically what is scummy about Secretdorf? I don't really follow.

I've returned a bit from winter holidays.

First reads list
Second reads list
Third reads list (sort of)

My current thoughts:

Town
Imp - I'm very confident Imp is town, I strongly recommend they inspect a player they find suspicious tonight while staying calm and nice

Leantown
Knightwing - currently missing, maybe because of Crystal? pretty sure they're town
Lenglon - they've soft-cleared me as town on N2 and I think their track action on N1 is probably legit, could be scum but not seeing it right now
Canadian Kitten - they're probably town, or at least not Mafia since they've been spending the game trying to catch Mafia, I need to know Sofanthiel's flip to understand better
Jim - I didn't like that Jim had this mysterious additional third vote because why would someone keep quiet about that, but now it looks like Secretdorf has them? Could be scum, but I'm giving benefit of the doubt for now. My least confident of the leantowns.

The Neutral Box
Ambivalence
BlackHeart - I think they're probably not mafia, but I think it's very scummy how they didn't claim the N1 role-block on Imp during D2, but this could just be a player thing. Their claims line up with what we know and now two more players have been Marked by Death. Couldn't do anything on N2 because NQT role-blocked them.
Max - I highly doubt they're Mafia with Egan since they just completely stepped over them on D2. However, I have a hard time trusting Max when it feels like he has all the cards in his hand. His play is pretty on point and not someone worth voting currently.
Hector - I think they're been okay. I don't know if I trust them more or less than Max. I think I trust them...less, but not worth voting at least.

Indifference
Secretdorf - I don't have strong feelings, has all the Jim votes now? I think they're completely wrong to suspect Imp.
Crystalmire - Don't know, I think they're probably why themselves and Knightwing are missing? Shadow Realm makes me think "Yugioh".
Elephant Parade - They're bombing people? I don't have feelings one way or the other on their alignment.

Suspicious
NQT - I don't think it's likely they're with Egan because I think that would mean Egan would have tried to kill NQT on N1, unless some dumb trick that backfired was involved. I think it's fairly possible they're the one that blocked Webadict on N1 and are lying. I don't see them as being capital M Mafia, but their actions are suspicious and still worth looking into. It's possible they're also responsible for Webadict's death on N2 (being still afraid of the inspect), but this would mean their team had a way to circumvent my bus because they wouldn't have targeted Imp. This feels possible to me that this scum team used a superkill, because I don't understand why you'd try to kill Imp on N2. If NQT is town I don't feel great about Max I think.

Very Suspicious
Sofanthiel - Won't help town, acting the same as Egan the previous day. The Canadian Kitten probably caught them on N2, which only seems more sure when Sofantheil won't cooperate. I think it's very likely they're a capital M Mafia with Egan.


Will keep looking at the game...

Quote from: ToonyMan on December 25, 2023, 02:49:03 am

Look Imp, I could laugh at your expense

Also, why not ask my consent?  You sure seem to have intended to ask my confirmation after, so why not ask me before?

I wasn't going to say in thread that I plan on bussing Imp and Web.

To be critical I think you need to look at this game as a town player and not just as yourself.

I didn't think you would take this role swap so bad which I am regretting.

Quote from: Maximum Spin on December 25, 2023, 02:40:01 am

Quote from: The Canadian kitten on December 25, 2023, 02:38:55 am

Judging by the flavour text, It seems that I wasn't killed.

Do keep in mind that I die when inspecting Anti-town or the target used a kill action

Well who did you inspect?

Sofanthiel

Shocking no one

I'm not Tony Tony Chopper, although that would match Toony more.

I guess it's obvious at this point if you know One Piece.

I'm Law. Not only am I a doctor (who inspects as pirate), but I have my Operation Room which allows me to swap two players.

As could be expected, Imp is not happy being the Concept of Simplicity.

Canadian Kitten: Were you killed or did you inspect someone as mafia?

This would be good to know.